Author Topic: The 12 Blessed Guilds  (Read 3517 times)

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Re: The 12 Blessed Guilds
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2014, 07:55:10 PM »
There seems to be other Guilds and organizations inside the Delver's Drop World so it's likely that there are Thieves Guilds. They're just not part of the 12 Blessed Guilds which seem to have a set purpose which may or may not be devised from the God they follow. I don't know how much else I can share though, since some organizations are listed.

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Re: The 12 Blessed Guilds
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2014, 12:32:08 PM »
It vaguely reminds me of the theology created by Scott Lynch in the Gentlemen Bastards fantasy books.  There are twelve gods that specifically rule over different aspects of life, each with it's own church and servants...  But there's an unspoken thirteenth god that supposedly looks out for thieves and con men.


Back when we started talking about the guilds, Burrell brought up The Lies of Locke Lamora a lot - specifically relating to the Rogue being kind of like the Gentlemen Bastards, with their thievery being somehow honorable. I later read the books, and really really liked both the world and the story in The Lies of Locke Lamora (but I thought the second book, Red Seas Under Red Skies, was a mess). Anyway... The number of our gods and guilds being set to 12 was coincidentally the same as those books, and the number was chosen way before I ever read them. 12 is just a convenient number :) I also independently came up with the idea of the 13th "Lost Guild" which was not chosen by the gods, and later realized it was similar to the "Unnamed 13th" god of the Gentlemen Bastards books. So yes — there are a lot of similarities, and hopefully the similarities are good ones. I will admit that the Gentlemen Bastards ideas have probably crept into our mythos to some degree, but I'm trying to not imitate the books, just for sake of not lifting material and remaining unique :)

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Re: The 12 Blessed Guilds
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2014, 07:25:30 PM »
It vaguely reminds me of the theology created by Scott Lynch in the Gentlemen Bastards fantasy books.  There are twelve gods that specifically rule over different aspects of life, each with it's own church and servants...  But there's an unspoken thirteenth god that supposedly looks out for thieves and con men.


Back when we started talking about the guilds, Burrell brought up The Lies of Locke Lamora a lot - specifically relating to the Rogue being kind of like the Gentlemen Bastards, with their thievery being somehow honorable. I later read the books, and really really liked both the world and the story in The Lies of Locke Lamora (but I thought the second book, Red Seas Under Red Skies, was a mess). Anyway... The number of our gods and guilds being set to 12 was coincidentally the same as those books, and the number was chosen way before I ever read them. 12 is just a convenient number :) I also independently came up with the idea of the 13th "Lost Guild" which was not chosen by the gods, and later realized it was similar to the "Unnamed 13th" god of the Gentlemen Bastards books. So yes — there are a lot of similarities, and hopefully the similarities are good ones. I will admit that the Gentlemen Bastards ideas have probably crept into our mythos to some degree, but I'm trying to not imitate the books, just for sake of not lifting material and remaining unique :)

Good to hear that I'm not crazy, not to say that I really thought you were lifting anything.  The conversation just had that sorta vibe and I just got into said series of books.

Lies was solid.  I'm in the middle of Red Skies now, and I have the third book The Republic of Thieves sitting on my bookshelf. 

 

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