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Title: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on April 17, 2013, 05:29:21 PM
Welcome, this is a thread where we can delve into the realm of crowdfunding and post about projects that have recently taken the plunge into Kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/recently-launched) and IndieGoGo (http://www.indiegogo.com/projects?filter_quick=new) as they try to follow those before them in the quest for enough treasure needed to make their dreams reality.

Seen a great looking project just launch? Have you backed a campaign and want to share it? Is there a project in its last hours that needs help because it is almost at its goal? You can post about it here.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on April 17, 2013, 06:02:14 PM
I know that Shovel Knight's kickstarter is already over and they achieved all of their stretch goals, but if anybody wants to get any of those Backer rewards or just pre-order the game, I think they put up a Paypal that will be open for the next two or three days. I'm guessing most people here are already aware of Shovel Knight since it's been mentioned in a lot of the same places and by a lot of the same people who've covered Delver's Drop, but if not, please go check it out. It's super duper awesome and stuff.

Shovel Knight! (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yachtclubgames/shovel-knight)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: VacantPsalm on April 17, 2013, 11:13:01 PM
I jumped in on Shovel Knight like 4 hours before the Kickstarter ended. ;D


I'm personally super curious about Ghost of a Tale (http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ghost-of-a-tale/x/3035968?c=home). Text copied from the Indiegogo page. "...A small game where you play a little mouse on a quest in a medieval world populated by animals.. [...] Among the inspirations I could quote Disney's "Robin Hood", the fables of La Fontaine, "Redwall", "Winnie the Pooh", "The Secret of Nimh", "The Dark Crystal", the paintings of Alan Lee, John Howe, Paul Bonner, John Bauer, and many, many others..."

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3311296/JunkPics/20130209083623-ghost_05.jpg)


I feel a little off suggesting it, because I haven't even decided if I want to fund it myself. The thing is you have to pay ~$26.07 just to get the game when it comes out and I have no idea how long he intends to make it. I don't know how comfortable I'd feel about dropping ~$26.07 for a game that could very well be 2 hours long when I get nothing for the risk. Yet again, I can't help but want to fund it because it's so intriguing, the video alone kind of hits a soft spot in me. I definitely want to play it, but that's a harsh amount to drop with so little knowledge. (I should really check out those updates when I get a chance. It's late right now though.)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Knight Pattern on April 17, 2013, 11:14:26 PM
So bummed I missed out on Radio the Universe (hope I'll be able to still purchase the full version on release) and Sealark.

Shovelknight looks absolutely GOTY worthy. All dem playable characters (VOTE PLAGUE KNIGHT), amazing music and visual direction, plus battlemode/challenges is going to make for a ton of fun.

Currently considering the CHASM kickstarter, demo is pretty solid but kind of annoyed you can't look down/have no downward attacking options. Leads to some situtations where you pretty much can't avoid taking damange.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on April 18, 2013, 12:58:54 AM
Quote from: Knight Pattern
Shovelknight looks absolutely GOTY worthy. All dem playable characters (VOTE PLAGUE KNIGHT), amazing music and visual direction, plus battlemode/challenges is going to make for a ton of fun.

I'm definitely voting Plague Knight, Mole Knight and a toss-up between King Knight, Propeller Knight and who I'm assuming is Death Knight (The Scythe-wielding cloaked figure). Very excited to hear more from that project. Between Delver's Drop and Shovel Knight I'm going to be drowning in awesomeness.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on April 18, 2013, 01:06:37 AM
We had a chance to meet the Shovel Knight devs (Yacht Club Games) at PAX East and they were super nice folks! There are a lot of parallels in our studios (they admittedly have a better pedigree), and even in our games: we both went back to the root of the games we loved growing up and are trying to bring them back into the limelight with our own twists and more modern design aspects. I was very excited to see that they were Greenlit today - also very envious :)


In the last couple of months there were several games on Kickstarter that really got me excited: Radio the Universe, Cryamore, Shovel Knight and Torment 2, for starters.


As far as currently ongoing campaigns, I'm really digging Chasm although I need to spend more time with the demo. The aforementioned Ghost of a Tale is also pretty stunning looking. Risk of Rain has already reached their goal but it's worth looking at too.


Another game that some of you all might like (it's not a KS project) is Hammerwatch - it's a pixel art Gauntlet-like that has a Beta demo out in the wild.


Tangentially, one of my favorite games as a kid was Zelda 2 (I also really like the ActRaiser games) and both Chasm and Shovel Knight have realllllllllly made me want to make a game in the Zelda 2 vein some day. Maybe I can convince the Ryans it is a worthy project post-Delver's Drop....  ;D
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Heradite on April 18, 2013, 01:18:57 AM
It is a pity that Pixelry Chilvary (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/evelendgames/pixelry-a-jousting-focused-medieval-rpg) isn't going to make it.

Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on April 18, 2013, 02:47:16 AM
We had a chance to meet the Shovel Knight devs (Yacht Club Games) at PAX East and they were super nice folks! There are a lot of parallels in our studios (they admittedly have a better pedigree), and even in our games: we both went back to the root of the games we loved growing up and are trying to bring them back into the limelight with our own twists and more modern design aspects.

That more or less sums up why I'm so excited that both projects got such great support, these games are basically everything that I loved about video games growing up, mixed in with all the great stuff I love about video games today.

What's cool is that one of my acquaintances at the college I go to is actually the younger brother of one of the members of Yacht Club Games, and we're both studying for game design majors. If I could end up meeting some of the guys at YCG a few years from now, I would be ecstatic. From their livestreams they definitely seem like really cool guys.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on April 18, 2013, 02:50:18 AM
So bummed I missed out on Radio the Universe (hope I'll be able to still purchase the full version on release) and Sealark.

Shovelknight looks absolutely GOTY worthy. All dem playable characters (VOTE PLAGUE KNIGHT), amazing music and visual direction, plus battlemode/challenges is going to make for a ton of fun.

Currently considering the CHASM kickstarter, demo is pretty solid but kind of annoyed you can't look down/have no downward attacking options. Leads to some situtations where you pretty much can't avoid taking damange.

Sea and Radio are the kind of games that somehow never got mentioned and unless you are scanning kickstarter regularly, you won't find them at all. Kind of Sad.

Thank's to Pixelscopic for bringing Shovel Knight to my attention! They have a absolutely lovely pixel design and very good music. The project hit so many stretchgoals, so there's lot of content as well.

CHASM. I don't know about this one. They don't give you the ability to run and hit or backdash. That would be fine if enemies had the same limitations, but they move pretty much freely, so I kind of feel cheated. I'm still thinking about donating since I had a lot of fun with the demo. Thier initial funding goal just seems to be set a bit to high for this kind of project. They should have cut out some and used it as stretch goal (DD did the same with the 100k stretch as far as I can remember).

I didn't go with torment, as I'd like to keep supporting devs who need my pledge more. Torment surely has enough people to keep the boat floating! ^^

Project Eternity seems to much hung up on the past. Their backers are full of people who swear on the infinity engine. It wasn't bad, but making it a standart for rpgs?
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Heradite on April 18, 2013, 02:56:52 AM
Quote
I didn't go with torment, as I'd like to keep supporting devs who need my pledge more. Torment surely has enough people to keep the boat floating! ^^

I'm one of the many people who backed Torment. :)

Currently the projects still alive that I'm excited for are Consortium, Battle Worlds: Kronos, and Divinity: Original Sin.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 18, 2013, 07:38:06 AM
I guess for me, most of the exciting crowdfunding projects have been funded, so at the moment, nothing has caught my eye.  Divinity was one that I was very excited for after seeing screenshots of the game, but after seeing the turn-based battle style, I decided to pass.  I have moved on to the action side of things.

However, I am currently backing Camelot Unchained and Road Redemption (because Road Rash took days of my life away :) ).

Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Knight Pattern on April 18, 2013, 12:37:46 PM
Yeah, I spent the latter part of last year/earlier part of this year shifting where I get my gaming news/dicussion from and by that time those two Kickstarters were already over (and the older place barely ever even mentioned Kickstarter projects at all).

Chasm certainly needs some work, but hopefully with early access to the game it can be shaped into something great. I'm fairly suprised they actually don't have any stretch goals atm since it seems they'll hit their funding mark fairly soonish.

Surprised I haven't gotten more hyped for Ghost of a Tale, the Redwall vibes should have gotten me to cough up some cash alone but it just... hasn't.

Pretty excited for Hammerwatch (Gauntlet is always good times), and glad it got through Greenlight as fast as it did.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: MasterPengwinn on April 18, 2013, 12:57:42 PM
Chasm and Shovel Knight both look like they will be great games once they are released. I am getting little tired of all the retro style graphics as of late tho. I backed Delver's Drop because it reminded me of my childhood but had a very visually appealing graphic style that was retro in nature but not all pixelized.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 18, 2013, 01:06:36 PM
Is Hammerwatch going to get a Kickstarter?
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on April 18, 2013, 01:30:11 PM
A first person horror game from a child protagonist's perspective, Among the Sleep (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/krillbite/among-the-sleep), has launched on Kickstarter today.

The trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWDQN_X5b-M) was shown months ago on some of the popular gaming blogs and I had heard before that the studio was considering running a Kickstarter. I am reminded by the reaction this trailer received to how people reacted to the previews of Amnesia: The Dark Descent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M627-obxNzg). Hopefully it is another indie success story in the horror game genre.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Burrell on April 18, 2013, 03:43:53 PM
A first person horror game from a child protagonist's perspective, Among the Sleep ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/krillbite/among-the-sleep[/url]), has launched on Kickstarter today.

The trailer ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWDQN_X5b-M[/url]) was shown months ago on some of the popular gaming blogs and I had heard before that the studio was considering running a Kickstarter. I am reminded by the reaction this trailer received to how people reacted to the previews of Amnesia: The Dark Descent ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M627-obxNzg[/url]). Hopefully it is another indie success story in the horror game genre.



I saw this today and it was intriguing to me. Planet Explorers (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1757963851/planet-explorers) has also tickled my fancy.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: VacantPsalm on April 18, 2013, 09:57:15 PM
...Surprised I haven't gotten more hyped for Ghost of a Tale, the Redwall vibes should have gotten me to cough up some cash alone but it just... hasn't...
I know right? I both really want to fund it and yet... eh. I've actually never read any of the Redwall books, I'm thinking I should get on that.

A first person horror game from a child protagonist's perspective, Among the Sleep ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/krillbite/among-the-sleep[/url]), has launched on Kickstarter today...
Planet Explorers ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1757963851/planet-explorers[/url]) has also tickled my fancy.


Ohhhhhh this thread might not be good for my wallet.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Heradite on April 19, 2013, 07:58:15 PM
This game (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1644707178/buddy-and-me?ref=live) is so close and I really hope it makes it.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on April 20, 2013, 04:32:53 AM
This game ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1644707178/buddy-and-me?ref=live[/url]) is so close and I really hope it makes it.


That is one cute game. One of the main reasons why this isn't funded already might be be because it's for tablets only.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 20, 2013, 10:18:45 AM
This game ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1644707178/buddy-and-me?ref=live[/url]) is so close and I really hope it makes it.


That is one cute game. One of the main reasons why this isn't funded already might be be because it's for tablets only.


This is probably true.  Many people have tablets, but it still provides a somewhat lackluster gaming interface vs. PC.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on April 20, 2013, 10:43:24 AM
I'll wait out a bit but I'm thinking of contributing to this (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1054244612/c-wars-roguelike-pixel-art-pc-game). Looks rather polished and their pixelart is lovely. Sadly I hadn't time to test their demo yet.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 20, 2013, 10:44:55 AM
Looks intriguing, but I have never been fond of "grid-based" rts games personally.  I prefer more massive ones with real time elements.  Would be cool for a tablet though.

Has anyone played the demo for Chasm?  I have spent some time try to level up and dying.  I think they have done really good with perma-death in this game and it is quite a bit of fun overall:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/discordgames/chasm?ref=live
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on April 20, 2013, 10:56:00 AM
Looks intriguing, but I have never been fond of "grid-based" rts games personally.  I prefer more massive ones with real time elements.  Would be cool for a tablet though.

Has anyone played the demo for Chasm?  I have spent some time try to level up and dying.  I think they have done really good with perma-death in this game and it is quite a bit of fun overall:

[url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/discordgames/chasm?ref=live[/url]

Read the whole thread, it's already been talked about a bit. They have these dreaded exclusive for backers only ingame contents (backers of DDrop should remember why that's unpopular). Other than that it's kind of solid.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 20, 2013, 10:59:18 AM
I had seen that a few people had mentioned it.  I was just asking about the demo.  "Solid" is the only word I found.  Which might be the only thing we get in forums. :D
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Knight Pattern on April 20, 2013, 11:15:56 AM
Well, the way the random layouts are generated in Chasm seems effective, the visuals and enemy animation look nice, hard to get really much else since you don't find many weapons or anything else (don't even get to fight a boss) in the demo. Needs a backdash/downwards attack/some way of looking down.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on April 20, 2013, 11:20:35 AM
Well, the way the random layouts are generated in Chasm seems effective, the visuals and enemy animation look nice, hard to get really much else since you don't find many weapons or anything else (don't even get to fight a boss) in the demo. Needs a backdash/downwards attack/some way of looking down.

You forgot attacking while moving.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 20, 2013, 11:30:22 AM
Well, the way the random layouts are generated in Chasm seems effective, the visuals and enemy animation look nice, hard to get really much else since you don't find many weapons or anything else (don't even get to fight a boss) in the demo. Needs a backdash/downwards attack/some way of looking down.

You forgot attacking while moving.

You can't attack while moving? I thought you could.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Heradite on April 20, 2013, 03:13:15 PM
This game ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1644707178/buddy-and-me?ref=live[/url]) is so close and I really hope it makes it.


That is one cute game. One of the main reasons why this isn't funded already might be be because it's for tablets only.


This is probably true.  Many people have tablets, but it still provides a somewhat lackluster gaming interface vs. PC.


I agree that being for tablets only is hurting it's fundraising but I think that the tablet is a surprisingly strong gaming interface. I have an iPad and I'm shocked at some of the truly original game design that is on there. While there's clearly a lot of great indie games on the PC/consoles, I'd say that the tablets is where most of the innovation in gaming is currently at.

And I was one of the people who thought tablets might mean the end of gaming...until I got one and realized that while there may be a lot of "casual" shorter games, what people are doing with them is truly commendable.

Anyways it made it. :)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 20, 2013, 05:56:03 PM
Yeah I saw.  Don't get me wrong, I think tablets offer some unique and rewarding gaming experiences.  I do however feel that the touchscreen is not the best for gaming.  I do long for the day when tablet and controller gaming become truly popular and we see some amazing games (talking full console quality of course). 
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on April 20, 2013, 06:19:08 PM
Yeah I saw.  Don't get me wrong, I think tablets offer some unique and rewarding gaming experiences.  I do however feel that the touchscreen is not the best for gaming.  I do long for the day when tablet and controller gaming become truly popular and we see some amazing games (talking full console quality of course).
The lack of precision when doing something with tables is just too low.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Knight Pattern on April 20, 2013, 06:20:31 PM
I'm not espeically fond of console quality standing for highest quality since I feel the handhelds have been absolutely been killing it ever since the PSP/DS days.

Despite what some of the tech types claimed dedicated handheld gaming is going nowhere (sort of like physical books/etc).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 20, 2013, 06:21:34 PM
Yeah I saw.  Don't get me wrong, I think tablets offer some unique and rewarding gaming experiences.  I do however feel that the touchscreen is not the best for gaming.  I do long for the day when tablet and controller gaming become truly popular and we see some amazing games (talking full console quality of course).
The lack of precision when doing something with tables is just too low.

That is really the case.  The onscreen joystiq does work well in some games, just doesn't feel the same.  A game that actually had really good controls was Arcane Legends.  I actually preferred playing it on my tablet over PC.  Strange.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 21, 2013, 07:28:58 PM
Just have to post this.  If you are a fan of Krondor, Dungeon Siege, or just fantasy novels in general, check out this Kickstarter.  i have chatted with Neal several times (met him through the Wildman Kickstarter) and I have to say, very cool guy and this book is going to be amazing:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nealhallford/the-thief-of-dreams-from-the-writer-of-betrayal-at?ref=live

EDIT: Sorry about the double post, did not check that I was the last.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: wraithbone on April 23, 2013, 08:03:39 AM
Planet Explorers ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1757963851/planet-explorers[/url]) has also tickled my fancy.


Planet Explorers has a way of making you look down at your watch and realise that the last time you looked at it was about 4 hours ago...when you started playing.

The whole create whatever you want... amazing!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 24, 2013, 07:16:44 AM
I have been on the fence about planet explorers.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on April 25, 2013, 04:11:19 AM
The middle of months on Kickstarter tend to be lacking in good projects. Now that May is getting closer, some interesting stuff is starting to launch.

Rex Rocket (http://kck.st/11wEcMK) is a Megaman-like action platformer and I have the chiptune song after the 1 minute mark for its pitch video stuck in my head recently. A.N.N.E (http://kck.st/ZJtpeb) is a combination of a 2D space shooter and a Metroidvania game. Both of those games already show some nice visual polishing.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 25, 2013, 07:24:37 AM
I did see A.N.N.E. and the concept does look quite cool.  I am still thinking of backing it.  However, this Rex Rocket looks pretty sick.  I will definitely through the $10 at them.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: HowlingLotus on April 25, 2013, 10:21:43 PM
A.N.N.E seemed interesting. I don't know how much I'll enjoy the ship combat, but the out of ship gameplay looked fun.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: TheLazyGeek on April 25, 2013, 10:56:48 PM
A.N.N.E looks to be rocking that nostalgia vibe really hard and he mentioned The Guardian Legend!  Needless to say, I threw my money at Mo's beautiful hairy face.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Burrell on April 25, 2013, 11:00:46 PM
A.N.N.E. looks pretty slick. What is it with all these awesome Canadian devs? Oh right, their country offers tax incentives for game developers :)


This isn't an active campaign, but I'm curious what you all think about Death, Inc. (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/229423802/death-inc/)? Did any of you back it, and if so what do you think about the recent news of their studio closing (http://www.polygon.com/2013/4/25/4265298/ambient-studios-closes-death-inc)? They were Greenlit in the last round, which is interesting. It seemed to be a fairly popular project with staunch supporters. I'm always interested in public perception and reactions to odd situations like this.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: TheLazyGeek on April 25, 2013, 11:10:47 PM
A.N.N.E. looks pretty slick. What is it with all these awesome Canadian devs? Oh right, their country offers tax incentives for game developers :)


Probably the same reason why Canadians have Chris Hadfield who wrings wet towels in space FOR SCIENCE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMtXfwk7PXg), which is totally awesome because physics.

This isn't an active campaign, but I'm curious what you all think about Death, Inc. ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/229423802/death-inc/[/url])? Did any of you back it, and if so what do you think about the recent news of their studio closing ([url]http://www.polygon.com/2013/4/25/4265298/ambient-studios-closes-death-inc[/url])? They were Greenlit in the last round, which is interesting. It seemed to be a fairly popular project with staunch supporters. I'm always interested in public perception and reactions to odd situations like this.


It's always sad to hear about studios closing.  I hadn't heard of the game previously but I think everyone loses when a smaller developer team breaks up for, I'm assuming, financial reasons.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on April 25, 2013, 11:11:51 PM
A.N.N.E. looks pretty slick. What is it with all these awesome Canadian devs? Oh right, their country offers tax incentives for game developers :)


This isn't an active campaign, but I'm curious what you all think about Death, Inc. ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/229423802/death-inc/[/url])? Did any of you back it, and if so what do you think about the recent news of their studio closing ([url]http://www.polygon.com/2013/4/25/4265298/ambient-studios-closes-death-inc[/url])? They were Greenlit in the last round, which is interesting. It seemed to be a fairly popular project with staunch supporters. I'm always interested in public perception and reactions to odd situations like this.


I didn't know that about Canada. Rather interesting information really.

Looking at that game, kinda sad that it won't get made. I really like the idea of it and would have backed it if there was still time. No real comment on it closing other than it's a shame that a promising indie company bit the big one.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on April 25, 2013, 11:23:20 PM
A.N.N.E looks to be rocking that nostalgia vibe really hard and he mentioned The Guardian Legend!  Needless to say, I threw my money at Mo's beautiful hairy face.

Oh man... Guardian Legend, you just struck my favorite NES game ever. I need to check this game out now...

*checks game out*

Dang... I really like the art style! I'd compare the game a little closer to Blaster Master (my second favorite NES game ever) but still, very impressed. I look forward to seeing more of this one!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on April 26, 2013, 02:51:55 AM
One of the reasons I remember Death Inc (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/229423802/death-inc) was that it announced (http://www.vg247.com/2013/01/07/media-molecule-veterans-launch-kickstarter-for-death-inc/) its campaign's launch ahead of time which was even less common to do back then than it is now.

Based on my experiences building reward structures for others, the reward tiers were not well incentivized by Ambient Studios. There needs to be reasons to support a project now instead of waiting for the game to be in a Steam sale or Humble Bundle. The rewards also need to scale to comply with the Law of Diminishing Returns; as a metaphor, a person who enjoys having one marshmallow may easily accept a second, but after ten marshmallows they start to not feel like they can't eat another one of the sugary blobs. Death Inc scaled very poorly.

I feel that a Kickstarter project needs to have a strong main tier that immediately draws in potential backers to it first and then people can decide to raise their contributions. Double Fine (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/doublefine/double-fine-adventure) has a very strong $15 and $30 tiers as do many of the other superstar campaigns. Delver's Drop (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pixelscopic/delvers-drop) had very attractive $15 and $25 tiers. These tiers should be priced below $30 and the majority of funding should ideally come from these tiers. It is subjective but £15 felt too pricey for Death Inc's "main" tier and even with £10 early-bird slots open I did not feel like backing it. The £10 tier should have been the £15 tier with a £8 early-bird tier. All the various early-bird rewards for multiple levels added some confusion and there were too many available slots at the £25 tier. I could go on longer about how the rewards also should try to fit groups in the Bartle Test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartle_Test).

One of the things I look at is how efficient a rewards structure is. A $1 iOS game is going to need a lot more pre-orders than a $5 PC game to reach $1,000 so the iOS game needs to try hard to upsell backers to higher tiers. Great reward structures try to balance getting the most out of each backer through upselling, attracting as many backers as possible with a lowering barriers to backing while aiming to be funded with a minimum amount of backers. For Death Inc to get funded would require them to aim to get around 12,000 backers based on some simple math that looks at averages for the Video Games category. In retrospect I can use the backers they did get as a population sample and get 9,677 as the number of people they needed to try to aim to convince to become backers. I consider a project "broken" if it needs more than 40,000 backers as that project would need to set new popularity records on Kickstarter just to reach its goal (I do see these launch occasionally).

Some other thoughts:

It is disappointing to see Ambient Studios had such trouble after the campaign. Death Inc itself looked very fresh compared to other games being launched and I did give it the #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoSFPpCmVKc) spot for the active project that most deserved to be funded (I also gave Delver's Drop that #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJj4rGB0etg) spot when it was active).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Burrell on April 26, 2013, 10:04:05 AM

You've hit upon a lot of things that we (Ryan Baker mainly) research extensively before posting the DDrop Kickstarter. I hadn't followed Death Inc.'s project very closely since it was running at the same time we were managing ours. We aimed to make our $15 and $25 the most appealing, but we added the $50 tier from public demand and that was very well-received. It's also interesting that you mention their video revamp, because one of the first requirements we set for ourselves internally was that the video must lead with gameplay and not a talking head.


I do remember Death, Inc. getting what seemed to be a lot of press at the time, and the visual style was highly appealing. It's always a sadness to see a studio shutter its doors. One of the unique aspects of the game industry is that there really isn't a sense of competition in the traditional meaning. There's room for everyone so it's truly a shame when a colleague - not a competitor - fades away.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on April 26, 2013, 11:28:23 AM

  • I remember that month Death Inc was up against a number of large campaigns like Project Awakened ([url]http://www.joystiq.com/game/project-awakened[/url]) and The Golem ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1320581435/moonbot-studios-next-game-the-golem[/url]) that were both also struggling. It was a bad month.


Both other projects lacked stong media presence.
Project Awakening felt too generic and 500k for sinc calibre of game sounded suspicious for many people.
The Golem did not have any prototypes for gamplay, just a few models and a few some sketches. It felt more like an art production than a game. Artistry before gameplay isn't popular with potential backers.


I do remember Death, Inc. getting what seemed to be a lot of press at the time, and the visual style was highly appealing. It's always a sadness to see a studio shutter its doors. One of the unique aspects of the game industry is that there really isn't a sense of competition in the traditional meaning. There's room for everyone so it's truly a shame when a colleague - not a competitor - fades away.

I wish this mindset was more widespread beyond indies.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Burrell on April 26, 2013, 12:43:38 PM
Artistry before gameplay isn't popular with potential backers.


I get mixed signals on this. Cryamore was running at the same time DDrop was and they didn't have a playable demo or any real gameplay to show off. By the time they released their (very limited) gameplay demo for download they had already shattered their goal. Likewise there have been games that show gameplay that haven't done very well at all (Death Inc., Lords of New York, to name a couple). I think an argument could be made either way; gameplay takes a concept from the realm of pure backer imagination to something more solidified and then there's actually something to critique.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: TheLazyGeek on April 26, 2013, 05:27:25 PM
Artistry before gameplay isn't popular with potential backers.


I get mixed signals on this. Cryamore was running at the same time DDrop was and they didn't have a playable demo or any real gameplay to show off. By the time they released their (very limited) gameplay demo for download they had already shattered their goal. Likewise there have been games that show gameplay that haven't done very well at all (Death Inc., Lords of New York, to name a couple). I think an argument could be made either way; gameplay takes a concept from the realm of pure backer imagination to something more solidified and then there's actually something to critique.

I suppose the potential of gameplay is preferable to actual gameplay for a good number of backers.  You either have theories and concepts rather than ready-to-show mechanics which gives someone more room to imagine what the game could be instead of what absolutely is.

And that's one aspect of trying to get support through kickstarter that could make or break a lot of projects.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on April 26, 2013, 08:31:25 PM
This thread just went from potential walletbuster to a very interesting look in to crowdsource marketing.  ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on April 27, 2013, 12:54:25 AM
Both other projects lacked stong media presence.
Project Awakening felt too generic and 500k for sinc calibre of game sounded suspicious for many people.


The Golem had better than average press coverage, but Project Awakened (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1312036782/project-awakened) had a lot of press coverage as it looked like it was going to be another huge Kickstarter success story so bloggers were jumping on it. The Kicktraq data (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1312036782/project-awakened/#chart-daily) shows the project went into a stall from February 23rd to the 27th for the rate of new backers that it didn't truly recover from. Project Awakened did very well for a Kickstarter campaign, but its large scope was only a bit too much and with more time it should have succeed. There isn't a fatal flaw to the campaign from what I've seen; it could have possibly been a combination of people losing faith in the project being viable, not being niche enough and backer fatigue. Unreal 4 was both a selling point and a liability due to how unproven that engine is. The devs did not give up and tried a second attempt through their site (http://www.projectawakened.com/founders-club/), but it looks like an even riskier project now.

This thread just went from potential walletbuster to a very interesting look in to crowdsource marketing.  ::thumbsup::


I can get really heavy into the science of crowdfunding if people want. There have been e-books like The Crowdfunding Bible (http://www.crowdfundingguides.com/) and A Kickstarter's Guide (http://kickstarterguide.com/get-the-guide/) that I am overall not happy with. These guides are way too generic and have misconceptions that make me cringe (Like saying that the time of day a project launches isn't important). There is a 11.4 litre plastic tote of notes on scrap pieces of paper for me to finish condensing into my own advanced guide specifically for video game project creators. I hope to have a simplified guide prepared to release in May. A problem is that the outline of the advanced guide is starting to look like "how to do linear programming and data analysis with Excel" grafted onto an e-commerce textbook so I've been procrastinating.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on April 27, 2013, 03:38:39 AM
I suppose the potential of gameplay is preferable to actual gameplay for a good number of backers.  You either have theories and concepts rather than ready-to-show mechanics which gives someone more room to imagine what the game could be instead of what absolutely is.

And that's one aspect of trying to get support through kickstarter that could make or break a lot of projects.
Imagination filling the gap is a powerful tool indeed. You just need to urgently mention that concepts and possible mechanics are not set in stone, otherwise that could provoke a shitstorm.


@LobsterSundew:
Crowdsourcing is a super intressting field. If you find the motivation to finish your book, show us an excerpt! ^^
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Burrell on April 27, 2013, 01:56:49 PM
I can get really heavy into the science of crowdfunding if people want. There have been e-books like The Crowdfunding Bible and A Kickstarter's Guide that I am overall not happy with. These guides are way too generic and have misconceptions that make me cringe (Like saying that the time of day a project launches isn't important). There is a 11.4 litre plastic tote of notes on scrap pieces of paper for me to finish condensing into my own advanced guide specifically for video game project creators.


Curiously, do you take into account things like the changing public perception of Kickstarter (we found that many people still don't understand the functional nature of it [i.e. they aren't billed until the project ends and succeeds]), changes Kickstarter itself has made, the influx of games as part of the ecosystem of KS projects, etc?
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on April 27, 2013, 07:57:20 PM

I suppose the potential of gameplay is preferable to actual gameplay for a good number of backers.  You either have theories and concepts rather than ready-to-show mechanics which gives someone more room to imagine what the game could be instead of what absolutely is.

And that's one aspect of trying to get support through kickstarter that could make or break a lot of projects.



This is a really interesting topic that we have talked about internally a good deal. I strongly think that leaving a lot up to the imagination can definitely be a positive factor for a Kickstarter. However, I think that is usually only the case for a team/game that has a famous name or a pronounced pedigree. For an unknown developer or relatively unknown developer (like us), a lack of a functional gameplay foundation is just another mountain to climb in terms of finding an audience and getting them to commit to your project.


Even though we only showed a portion of DD gameplay, what we had looked good and by the majority of accounts is already fun. So we were able to leave certain things up for imagination's grabs (and not everything even now is 100% hammered out.)


Would our KS have been successful if we had not shown a minute's worth of semi-varied gameplay? Would you have backed it if all we had was some nice concept art and the pitch? I am inclined to strongly believe that we would have not just failed to reach our goal, but failed miserably.


Looping back to showing little concrete gameplay and leaving the majority up to the imagination of the backers: this seems like a recipe for a lot of disillusioned backers to me. Any KS project is already going to have a lot work cut out for it in terms of meeting expectations but in this case, those expectations are even more varied and constantly moving.


Quote
I can get really heavy into the science of crowdfunding if people want. There have been e-books like The Crowdfunding Bible ([url]http://www.crowdfundingguides.com/[/url]) and A Kickstarter's Guide ([url]http://kickstarterguide.com/get-the-guide/[/url]) that I am overall not happy with. These guides are way too generic and have misconceptions that make me cringe (Like saying that the time of day a project launches isn't important). There is a 11.4 litre plastic tote of notes on scrap pieces of paper for me to finish condensing into my own advanced guide specifically for video game project creators. I hope to have a simplified guide prepared to release in May. A problem is that the outline of the advanced guide is starting to look like "how to do linear programming and data analysis with Excel" grafted onto an e-commerce textbook so I've been procrastinating.


Would definitely love to hear any details you'd be willing to share! If you would like any of our data/opinions/whatever ping me.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on April 28, 2013, 02:53:50 AM
Curiously, do you take into account things like the changing public perception of Kickstarter (we found that many people still don't understand the functional nature of it [i.e. they aren't billed until the project ends and succeeds]), changes Kickstarter itself has made, the influx of games as part of the ecosystem of KS projects, etc?


First, about backers, public perception and showing gameplay.

I've noticed that, in general, backers are expect higher production values for projects and feeling more entitled like if Kickstarter was an online store like Etsy (http://www.etsy.com/). I see there is an issue that a large group of backers out there that will not make a pledge to a campaign if it is not already 100% funded. Part of it is to avoid the emotional pain of backing a project and then seeing it fail. I've yet to cancel a pledge and have only reduced a pledge once, but my budgeting reassigns pledge amounts from failed campaigns to newly launched ones like a numbers game. If more people played that numbers game, a lot more smaller campaigns would get funded in my opinion. There is a danager of overspending if done in an undisciplined way.

Even relatively recently I see backers in comments section that don't understand Kickstarter. They ask about things like will their credit cards be charged if the campaign doesn't reach its goal. The number of backers that do understand what they are doing is the majority. Many people are impulse backing projects.

For project creators there is a big problem of devs seeing Kickstarter as a marketing platform when really it is a payment collection platform that won't do all their marketing work for them (Sealark (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1338986832/sealark-an-oceanic-adventure-game) being an exception). Projects like Wildman (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/11/wildman-kickstarter-canceled-by-gas-powered-games/) also went into Kickstarter too optimistic about their fanbase (And then blame (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-02-12-kickstarter-fatigue-kneecapped-wildman-drive-says-taylor) was targeted toward the ecosystem when really the campaign was mismanaged).

Taking public perception into account is done through my instincts more than through an exact science. There are stigmas against types of games such as iOS only games being "money grabs", etc. Kickstarter fatigue can be overcome by projects like Shovel Knight (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yachtclubgames/shovel-knight) that feel reinvigorating and having disposable income at the start of a new month. There are hardcore gamers that are sick and tired about being bombarded by friends with messages to check out projects. Some people consider a Kickstarter project to be scam if anything is suspicious. Projects that are close to being scams make people angry. Many campaigns are late and underdelivering.

This is a really interesting topic that we have talked about internally a good deal. I strongly think that leaving a lot up to the imagination can definitely be a positive factor for a Kickstarter. However, I think that is usually only the case for a team/game that has a famous name or a pronounced pedigree. For an unknown developer or relatively unknown developer (like us), a lack of a functional gameplay foundation is just another mountain to climb in terms of finding an audience and getting them to commit to your project.


Extra Credits episode Demo Daze (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QM6LoaqEnY) is relevant. Being both famous and vague can bring in a lot of other people's cash (This can apply to outside of crowdfunding as well). When footage of Double Fine's Broken Age (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWM4R5JsakE) was revealed there was a group of people that did not like what they were seeing because during the campaign their imaginations went wild thinking it would be a their ideal game from Double Fine in the tones of Grim Fanango (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV1NBHL9Fa4), Monkey Island (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjvD3C_nvBk), etc. when what they had really backed can be summed up as a project for Tim Schafer and his studio to make an adventure game. The risk that the game would not fit their tastes was a real one. Building an understanding about what the project is should be one of the project creator's priorities. As well, if you can't convey what the game is to someone then you might not have your project properly thought through yet.

Instead of being specific versus being vague letting people's imaginations go out of control, it should be about establishing how the game has a lot of future potential (deep game mechanics, competitive multiplayer, procedural content, modding support, etc.). The now should be well detailed, its the future that needs to be easy to imagine with a clear route of how to get there.

Would our KS have been successful if we had not shown a minute's worth of semi-varied gameplay? Would you have backed it if all we had was some nice concept art and the pitch? I am inclined to strongly believe that we would have not just failed to reach our goal, but failed miserably.


Without the gameplay it would have been very hard for Devler's Drop to get funded at that goal amount and lost at the bottom of the popularity rankings. Not having gameplay could mean not having had success at PAX. When I watch footage like Total Biscuit's video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz1SNQzPPCE) for Delver's Drop I can get enough of a sense for the game that I can simulate playing it in my head. I can watch and see core ideas for the game already executed. Execution is often the hardest step and seeing it down well leads to a "Shut up and take my money moment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9rpvtbDc9s)" that project creators should hope for as it can bring in a flood of backers.

Second, the design and feautures of the site have been overall gradually improving over time.

Internal searches for projects is getting better, but it is still needing work. Kickstartr (no "e") was originally designed to for the geographic location of projects to be of more important than they are now. Because of that history, it was designed to search by physical location first. This can be a problem if your title is too similar to a town or city's name. For example, entering “auro” to find the game Auro (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dinofarmgames/auro) came up with a result for a coffee shop project in Aurora for the state of Illinois. To actually find Auro required the extra step of clicking on the line "Were you looking for projects in Aurora, IL or matching the word "auro"?". It has now been reversed. The search bar still depends on exact spelling.

A project's description that appears below the project thumbnail image used to not be displayed on the project page. That was a feature I was very happy to see added. The tag system was also welcomed.

On a backer's profile the projects they had pledge to previously displayed the percent the project was funded and the time remaining. Now it only displays the number of days remaining. This has made it harder for me to check up on how each project is doing as I now have to click on each of them instead of looking over one page. How projects are starred has also been messed with so they aren't in the order I want them to be in.

On the Backers tab for a project, backers were listed in chronological order. That was changed because users like myself were always appearing at the top. Now there is the system of "You’ll see these names updated every 10 backers, in no particular order. If you just backed and you don’t see your name yet, stay tuned! All names will be listed when the project ends no matter what".

The analytics available to project creators is getting better.

Third, about what the game projects like Double Fine effect did to the Kickstarter ecosystem.

These large superstar projects, like Project Eternity (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity), bring new people into the Kickstarter ecosystem after they've ended that stick around to back other campaigns. When those superstar campaigns post updates it brings people back and they check what is popular while they're on the site. Without the Games category, Kickstarter would likely not have exploded like it did in the first half of 2012. The Products and Film categories had some strength to them, but Games (including boardgames) generated a lot of news for the site's existence in 2011 and 2012.

Kickstarter's creators had a different vision for the site of funding local artisans in your city and now have to cater to users needs that weren't foreseen before of having superstar projects with international scope. From the Staff Picks (http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/recommended) and the Kickstarter Tumblr (http://kickstarter.tumblr.com/) it is still apparent that the Kickstarter team themselves are more Art category oriented. Staff Picks for the Games category can often be illogical.

With the presence of Ouya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78XQHex71kg), I see a new unofficial extension of the ecosystem that is creating a positive feedback loop. People that have an Ouya will back games on Kickstarter with Ouya as a supported platform. The Ouya's game library will benefit and having good games available are one of the primary forces that drives sales of a video game console. Developers will see that they can profit from having an Ouya port which drives 3rd party development. Developers that need funds could then turn to launching Kickstarter campaigns. More people will consider buying one of these consoles as the game library expands. I expect to see Ouya accesories like 3rd party case mods appear on Kickstarter too similar to how the Raspberry Pi (http://www.raspberrypi.org/) accesories are getting kickstarted. The Occulus Rift is also tying into the Kickstarter ecosystem.

In addition to crowdfunding specialized gaming blogs like Kickstarter Katchup (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/kickstarter-katchup/) emerging to make promotion easier, there are also backers organizing themselves into groups of passionate game supporters like the Obsidian Order (http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60483-the-obsidian-order-of-eternity-wants-you/).

Finally, on the topic of letting imagination run free. At an average around $33 per backer, Delver's Drop was funded with just 4,534 backers. A very tiny fraction of the number of gamers out there. There is a population clock (http://www.census.gov/popclock/) showing over 315,000,000 people in the USA and over 7,000,000,000 worldwide. Imagine a crowdfunding project (Not necessarily on Kickstarter's platform or a game) in within two years that crosses the 100,000 backers threshold (Pebble (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android) did 68,929). Take a look at VGChartz (http://www.vgchartz.com/) to see how many people are buying video games weekly. Now imagine that what we consider to be a AAA scope game today could be funded through Kickstarter within two decades (What is considered AAA in the year 2033 should be surprising to we citizens of the year 2013). What this vision depends on is that developers can continue to push the boundaries of video games. Fraud, failures and poor legislation could also temporarily stunt crowdfunding's growth. Reports (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/crowdfunding-market-grows-81-in-2012-crowdfunding-platforms-raise-27-billion-and-fund-more-than-one-million-campaigns-finds-research-firm-massolution-201911701.html) on the growth of crowdfunding show it already at $2,700,000,000 for 2012 with the potential to easily rise a few billion dollars higher this decade.

I know I've been typing too long when the forum hangs at "Fetching preview" for a few moments.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on April 30, 2013, 10:31:39 AM
How does everyone feel about "Flexible Funding Campaigns" as a model like Indiegogo.  They are really a double edged sword.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on April 30, 2013, 11:00:50 AM
How does everyone feel about "Flexible Funding Campaigns" as a model like Indiegogo.  They are really a double edged sword.

It's a breeding ground for scam, really.
You can achieve a good result by cutting down your original project and adding the cutoff parts as stretchgoals (DDrop did that as well for the 100k goal).

There may be some projects that cannot be downsized, but if you cannot work below a certain budget, what exactly do you do with the partial sum then? Start a new campaign?

Most people expect something in return for their pledge, but who can guarantee that a project creator doesn't just run off with the grabbed money under the cheap pretense off "too few dollar bills"?

Sorry, but I don't see any real advantages for backers. Maybe someone can point out some? (looking at your direction LobsterSundew)


 
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on April 30, 2013, 05:41:03 PM
I found out that the Veronica Mars (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/559914737/the-veronica-mars-movie-project/#chart-daily) achieved 91,585 backers since making the April 28th post. I had stopped following that campaign after it had raised multiple times its goal amount. Wish I Was Here (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1869987317/wish-i-was-here-1/#chart-daily) is not looking like it will get that many backers but should get to $4,000,000.



Sorry, but I don't see any real advantages for backers. Maybe someone can point out some? (looking at your direction LobsterSundew)

The flexible funding model of IndieGoGo was a reason I abandoned it. I was on both IndieGoGo and Kickstarter in 2011, but after $38 in contributions I haven't received anything from IndieGoGo projects (My policy was only backing projects that had made their goal or the creator says it would go ahead anyway). There were also a lot of scams on IndieGoGo such as microsized Bluetooth USB dongles from China being sold at 500% markup or fibreoptic illuminated shoelaces that were already available on the Internet. IndieGoGo became the site to dump projects that Kickstarter rejected. There is much more risk for early backers on IndieGoGo projects. IndieGoGo is much closer to being donations than pre-orders when compared to Kickstarter.

After cancelling its first campaign (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1604283933/the-dark-triad-dragons-death) after 6 only days (Too premature in my opinion), The Dark Triad: Dragon's Death then went with an IndieGoGo campaign (http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-dark-triad-dragon-s-death) to gets some funds so the team can cover some of their living expenses while they prepare to relaunch on Kickstarter. I see that as a valid use of flexible funding.

IndieGoGo does not have the benefit of Amazon's payment processing servers like Kickstarter does. Even though it can now offer fixed funding (http://support.indiegogo.com/entries/20566503-Fixed-vs-Flexible-Funding), those IndieGoGo campaigns have to drop credit card support and only use PayPal so that there can be easier refunds.



Two interesting campaigns launched for this week so far. The first one is a 3rd person action/puzzle game called Son of Nor (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stillalivestudios/son-of-nor-the-world-is-your-weapon) that has some earthbending mechanics that should make Avatar The Last Airbender fans happy. Second is the voxel-based isometric townbuilder Stonehearth (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1590639245/stonehearth) finally launched. I've been seeing Screenshot Saturday (http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1d76bn/screenshot_saturday_116_hello_world/c9nmd0g) posts for it since February. I haven't decided to back Stonehearth yet mainly because I've already backed Timber and Stone (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1102507263/timber-and-stone).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: wraithbone on May 01, 2013, 01:55:53 AM
What do we think of Stonehearth (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1590639245/stonehearth)?

It cropped up on Kotaku today and I like the looks of it. It builds on the hype of minecraft, while drawing more upon the game's origin of dwarf fortress.

It looks like if sims and minecraft had a child then this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCFjqtj8i6M) is what you get.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: TheLazyGeek on May 01, 2013, 02:10:45 AM
Would our KS have been successful if we had not shown a minute's worth of semi-varied gameplay? Would you have backed it if all we had was some nice concept art and the pitch? I am inclined to strongly believe that we would have not just failed to reach our goal, but failed miserably.

I can only speak for myself as to why I backed the project, but when I first came across the KS campaign, my immediate thoughts were: One, it was a catchy and memorable name.  Also the logo was eye-catching as well which helped.  But it got me to thinking about why it was called that and other similar questions.  Two, I watched the video and a lot of those questions were answered immediately without having anyone say why I should be interested.  The key being that you showed over telling, which I can't remember where I heard it from, but that's always been in the front of my mind when I try to share ideas or tell stories.  Three, the first minute grabbed my attention and those following managed to go more into detail about what I had just watched further expanding my interest in the project and game.  Beyond that, initially I was had at the top-down zelda-esque dungeon crawling.

So, for me at least, nostalgia and smart choices in how you presented the game are what caught me and I think without the gameplay and only just what you want to make rather than what you want to create and expand on would not have worked in this case.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: wraithbone on May 01, 2013, 06:56:29 PM
I haven't decided to back Stonehearth yet mainly because I've already backed Timber and Stone ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1102507263/timber-and-stone[/url]).


I found Timber and Stone very lack-luster. A great concept, poorly executed. Controls are clunky, UI is buggy (probably fixable) and the profession system is very flawed when married with the build/craft system. Hoping that Stonehearth will be better.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 01, 2013, 10:41:35 PM
I found Timber and Stone very lack-luster. A great concept, poorly executed. Controls are clunky, UI is buggy (probably fixable) and the profession system is very flawed when married with the build/craft system. Hoping that Stonehearth will be better.


I actually haven't downloaded my copy of Timber and Stone so I don't know how it feels for me to play it yet, but I have watched two let's plays for it. Stoneheath looks to be much more further along in its development, has a larger scope, shows it can reach that scope and with the response it is seeing should develop into a very strong indie title. By many metrics Stonehearth will be the better game. If I were Timber and Stone's dev I would try add things to differentiate the game from what Stonehearth offers as both feel like they had the same inspirations.

Stonehearth's module system will be interesting to see how they implemented it when they provide info to the modders. The animation of animals and villagers fit the aesthetic very well. It should easily be fully funded before midnight as it is around $117,000 right now. It is performing similar to Castle Story (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/902505202/castle-story)'s campaign that raised $171,843 (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/902505202/castle-story/#chart-daily) on its first day.

A smaller project that also launched yesterday was the dungeon crawler TinyKeep (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/phidinh/tinykeep) that has an interesting part in its pitch video after the 1 minute 30 seconds mark where the procedural generation of the dungeon is visualized. Today there was also the launch for an open-world RPG called TUG (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nerdkingdom/tug-1) that is promising a lot, but the character designs and some of the details like the progression system sparked my interest.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: MasterPengwinn on May 02, 2013, 01:33:00 AM
While not a Kickstarter game yall need to go check out Rogue Legacy. It looks like a VERY fun action platformer with rogue like elements. The game is apparently ready to be released they just need to be greenlit so they can push the game out. Go check them out and give them a vote on Greenlight.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: HowlingLotus on May 02, 2013, 02:04:26 AM
While not a Kickstarter game yall need to go check out Rogue Legacy. It looks like a VERY fun action platformer with rogue like elements. The game is apparently ready to be released they just need to be greenlit so they can push the game out. Go check them out and give them a vote on Greenlight.


Voted for and added to favourites the day it was put on greenlight thanks to a mention of it by Discord Games (Chasm). It looks like it has the potential for replayability even after playing it to death. Plus the addition of potty humour was a nice touch :P.

I know it might be considered a more laid back game, but Dog Sled Saga (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1919426885/dog-sled-saga) looks like a nice game to relax with. It has already reached its goal target goal of $6,000 and has its stretch goals up. I'm a sucker for anything animal related and my family has a Husky/Malamute/Shepherd. So naturally I backed it, and it also looks pretty good and something different.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: wraithbone on May 02, 2013, 07:02:36 AM
I actually haven't downloaded my copy of Timber and Stone so I don't know how it feels for me to play it yet, but I have watched two let's plays for it. Stoneheath looks to be much more further along in its development, has a larger scope, shows it can reach that scope and with the response it is seeing should develop into a very strong indie title. By many metrics Stonehearth will be the better game. If I were Timber and Stone's dev I would try add things to differentiate the game from what Stonehearth offers as both feel like they had the same inspirations.

Stonehearth's module system will be interesting to see how they implemented it when they provide info to the modders. The animation of animals and villagers fit the aesthetic very well. It should easily be fully funded before midnight as it is around $117,000 right now.


They said that  the module system will be a way of encouraging community additions. Also, I received word that Stonehearth is funded (100% in 3 days, not bad). Given that kickstarters tend to be linear they could get quite a lot for it, like 500k. Meaning I would have high expectations. Even if they end up with a bit of a saturation curve they could be hitting 200~250%. Though its still early days.

Today there was also the launch for an open-world RPG called TUG ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nerdkingdom/tug-1[/url]) that is promising a lot, but the character designs and some of the details like the progression system sparked my interest.


Indeed it does look very interesting. There seems to be a large focus on immersion.

For those interested TUG was also on Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/if-you-wanted-more-game-from-minecraft-this-might-be-f-486675183). That is where I discovered it. It is a 2015 delivery date, however, and that's quite a long time from KS to release.
I think the game shows promise of being a really polished experience. They have chosen a nice aesthetic, they have started to piece together some interesting core mechanics and they look like they have some sort of narrative in mind. The real icing on the TUG cake will be how it comes together.


Also Ive been coming across a lot of games made in Unity3D, for example, Planet Explorers, Timber and Stone, Leviathan Warships and Scrolls. What do you think of the Unity engine and its role in kickstarter games?

Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on May 02, 2013, 09:54:59 AM

Also Ive been coming across a lot of games made in Unity3D, for example, Planet Explorers, Timber and Stone, Leviathan Warships and Scrolls. What do you think of the Unity engine and its role in kickstarter games?

Actually, I think it is kind of a neat phenomenon that is occurring with Unity and Kickstarter.  As both of these projects cater to indie developers, I think it is quite fitting.  That is not to say that AAA projects cannot be done on either platform, Kickstarter is all about being independent in your projects (financially speaking) and Unity is set to a price and marketed primarily towards indie developers, while games like Dungeonland prove that it is capable of AAA experiences.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Knight Pattern on May 02, 2013, 07:05:21 PM
Post Shovelknight I haven't honstly felt excited for any new project, I suppose the hype was just too much (for good reason though). Looks like Chasm is going to make it, but I decided against chipping in.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on May 02, 2013, 07:22:09 PM
Post Shovelknight I haven't honstly felt excited for any new project, I suppose the hype was just too much (for good reason though). Looks like Chasm is going to make it, but I decided against chipping in.
^
I'm in the exact same boat, pretty excited for some of the new projects out, A.N.N.E. and Chasm and such, but after backing DDrop, Shovel Knight and The Reward in the past month or two, I want to sort of sit back and check out the cool projects coming out. I may want to support em, and I'll probably buy Chasm when it comes out, but my wallet can only take so much awesome in such a short amount of time.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on May 03, 2013, 07:32:59 AM
I am stoked about this Kickstarter:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1590639245/stonehearth?ref=live
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: TheLazyGeek on May 03, 2013, 10:21:39 AM
Today there was also the launch for an open-world RPG called TUG ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nerdkingdom/tug-1[/url]) that is promising a lot, but the character designs and some of the details like the progression system sparked my interest.


TUG looks to have a lot of great ideas that the devs want to do.  I'll be keeping an eye on it over the next week or two to see if they release any more info.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Skwiziks on May 03, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
Today there was also the launch for an open-world RPG called TUG ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nerdkingdom/tug-1[/url]) that is promising a lot, but the character designs and some of the details like the progression system sparked my interest.


TUG looks to have a lot of great ideas that the devs want to do.  I'll be keeping an eye on it over the next week or two to see if they release any more info.


I'm willing to bet ten dollars on a game that sounds like something I've always wanted.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: wraithbone on May 04, 2013, 12:46:20 AM
Today there was also the launch for an open-world RPG called TUG ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nerdkingdom/tug-1[/url]) that is promising a lot, but the character designs and some of the details like the progression system sparked my interest.


TUG looks to have a lot of great ideas that the devs want to do.  I'll be keeping an eye on it over the next week or two to see if they release any more info.


I'm willing to bet ten dollars on a game that sounds like something I've always wanted.


It is a very good early entry point price. But 2015 is a long ways out.


I am stoked about this Kickstarter:

[url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1590639245/stonehearth?ref=live[/url]


Backed it almost instantly. Looks quite charming.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: petelectro on May 06, 2013, 12:32:58 PM
Imagine gradius, contra, binding of isaac and flashback somehow made a four-way baby: Enter risk of rain :D

I found it through the Chucklefish publishing announcement (the guys who're working on Starbound), played the demo for an hour and backed it directly.

There is dl link inside, check it out:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/riskofrain/risk-of-rain
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on May 06, 2013, 02:09:11 PM
Today there was also the launch for an open-world RPG called TUG ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nerdkingdom/tug-1[/url]) that is promising a lot, but the character designs and some of the details like the progression system sparked my interest.


TUG looks to have a lot of great ideas that the devs want to do.  I'll be keeping an eye on it over the next week or two to see if they release any more info.


I'm willing to bet ten dollars on a game that sounds like something I've always wanted.


It is a very good early entry point price. But 2015 is a long ways out.


I am stoked about this Kickstarter:

[url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1590639245/stonehearth?ref=live[/url]


Backed it almost instantly. Looks quite charming.


It really does.  I was hoping for a RTS-esque game with multiple crafting elements along with hints of RPG.  In it stepped.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 06, 2013, 07:21:05 PM
Also Ive been coming across a lot of games made in Unity3D, for example, Planet Explorers, Timber and Stone, Leviathan Warships and Scrolls. What do you think of the Unity engine and its role in kickstarter games?


With options like Unity around it can save indie devs a lot of time and effort compared to making a game engine from scratch especially with exporting to multiple target platforms. The Unity Pro licensing is inexpensive relative to a lot of competing engines so a small Kickstarter campaign can be enough to cover that cost. Unity's scripting environment can help some people create their first game when they are stilling learning basic programming. After the anoucement of Unity 4 there have were a lot more Kickstarter games supporting Linux. Linux gamers are starting to expect support to not be a stretch goal if the game is going to be on PC and Mac.

Now for what launched recently.

The creators of Eternal Darkness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_Darkness:_Sanity's_Requiem) are seeking to crowdfund their next game Shadow of the Eternals (http://www.precursorgames.com/shadowoftheeternals).

City Quest (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1376534446/city-quest-a-point-and-click-adventure) is a point and click adventure that pitched itself in an entertaining way that I don't want to spoil.

Moon Rift (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/843950213/moon-rift) is a 2.5D shooter that has procedural generation of weaponry and some nice little visual touches to the combat and GUI.

KR-17 (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1218095936/kr-17-wonderfling) is a platformer that impressed me with its pitch video that is a good example of how to divide a pitch into topics like level design or music.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: TheLazyGeek on May 07, 2013, 01:06:39 PM
Moon Rift looks like a fun little game and that UI looks really visually interactive (it pops and shakes, etc.)  I'll defiantly back it and look to wonder about the music to go along with the game.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on May 07, 2013, 03:53:55 PM
Here's a couple of projects that started today.


First off is Pixel Press (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/robinrath/pixel-press-draw-your-own-video-game) - this is being put out by another Missouri studio (out of St. Louis) and while I don't know them personally, I did have some back and forth with the project creator and gave him some feedback on his project pre-launch. It's effectively draw a platformer level, scan it with your phone/tablet, add some visual spice and then play. While it looks pretty simple in terms of gameplay modifications, it's a pretty cool idea and they have a nice presentation.


Then there is Ray's the Dead (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ragtag/rays-the-dead?ref=live), one of our PAX East Indie Megabooth Brethren. I really like the visual style of this game (billboarded sprites in a 3D world + nice lighting) and I believe Burrell gave them some early feedback on the project as well.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on May 07, 2013, 07:01:41 PM
An interesting read: http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/05/i-wont-give-zach-braff-one-dime.html (http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/05/i-wont-give-zach-braff-one-dime.html)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 08, 2013, 12:38:34 PM
An interesting read: [url]http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/05/i-wont-give-zach-braff-one-dime.html[/url] ([url]http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/05/i-wont-give-zach-braff-one-dime.html[/url])


This perfectly outlines why I loathe the Veronica Mars movie on Kickstarter. It simply doesn't belong into the crowdfunding sector. It steals the thunder of other projects that really deserve the attention.



Risk of Rain and Moon Rift seem better defined than Chasm. The first two are more action platformers, so randomly generated content works fine, but Chasm seems to be going the Metroidvania way.

Metroidvanias depend of the core element exploration, but that needs set landmarks. Castlevania has a it's titular castle, Metroid has a Planet/Spacestation filled with lore and (what I consider a new column of the genre) La-Mulana has it's ruins that tie together. The all have one large map (or sub-maps the connect to each other in Metroids case) filled with landmarks that not only help you navigate, but also make each particular area easier to remember (this is important when considering backtracking).

Chasm doesn't seem to have those interconnections. You get down layer by layer, but isn't this somewhat killing the idea of one big map that you have to explore. Finding a path down to the next layer is somewhat unfulfilling because you have to search every dead end for potential missable loot.

Also the idea of no save points/refresh stations isn't appealing. It somewhat punishes exploration.
Maybe the final version has these landmarks, inerconnections and savepoints, but I couldn't find any of those points in the description.

However, I'm glad they made it and I'll be certain to look into the game once it has progressed a bit more. Also the soundtrack of the demo got really stuck in my head.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on May 08, 2013, 02:28:40 PM
An interesting read: [url]http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/05/i-wont-give-zach-braff-one-dime.html[/url] ([url]http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/05/i-wont-give-zach-braff-one-dime.html[/url])


Really dug this article, Kickstarter has definitely become a considerably big beast of crowdfunding, and I guess it's catching more peoples' attention, which obviously means established people will try to use/exploit it...

It brings into question though, even though I love this company, what about Double Fine's Kickstarters, Broken Age? They even have their own Humble Bundle at the time I'm writing this, and Humble Bundle began as a way to give to charity and support independent developers like Wolfire Games, Team Meat, Hitbox Team, etc. Would we consider those sorts of projects and events in the same boat as Zach Braff's? Double Fine definitely started pretty small, but they've grown very popular because of their great humor and unique ideas, and they've released enough projects over the years to be considered a pretty stable game developer. Kickstarter makes it much easier for them to release their projects, and I've enjoyed every game I've played from them, but this article does make me question whether supporting Double Fine is as worthwhile as supporting a much more independent developer who hasn't quite gotten off the ground yet.

My girlfriend is a HUGE fan of Double Fine and Tim Schafer, so I think she'd kickstart any project of theirs in a heartbeat. Should Kickstarter be completely limited to people who really need to use it to become well-known, (and the sorts of people who see, appreciate and back those sorts of projects in the first place) or should established developers be allowed to use it every once in a while to start projects on the backs of their fans and retain their original vision without producers and investors at their backs?

I'm kind of on the fence on this one. I don't know Zach Braff that well outside of the fact that he was in Scrubs, so I don't think I would support his project for lack of knowledge about him, but I know Double Fine pretty well, and I like em enough that if I hadn't already backed other more independent projects previously and weren't strapped for cash at the moment, I would probably back them a couple of dollars just because I like em.

What are your guys' thoughts? Honestly I don't have as much of a problem with Zach Braff getting crowdfunding to create a movie as I do with somebody making an iPhone stand and making 3 million dollars off of an idea anybody could come up with. I know people who care about Kickstarter solely for its potential to create projects of that sort, so in any case where somebody's making an effort to make a video game, a movie, even a music album, I'd be more apt to be in their favor rather than the guy who's making something simple to profit off the popularity of an established company like Apple.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on May 08, 2013, 06:06:47 PM
Nothing from Kickstarter themselves says they are created or intended to support indie artists/developers/whatever.  The entire point of Kickstarter is to provide funding to projects.  I just thought it was an interesting look into the mentality surrounding Kickstarter and the whole indie/pro duality. 

If I saw a product that I was interested in, I would support it.  The idea of "taking money from smaller/more worthy projects" is somewhat deceptive.  There is a finite budget in terms of how much users can spend, but just because Zack Braff is taking money doesn't mean that money would have gone to someone else.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on May 08, 2013, 06:36:14 PM
Nothing from Kickstarter themselves says they are created or intended to support indie artists/developers/whatever.  The entire point of Kickstarter is to provide funding to projects.  I just thought it was an interesting look into the mentality surrounding Kickstarter and the whole indie/pro duality. 

If I saw a product that I was interested in, I would support it.  The idea of "taking money from smaller/more worthy projects" is somewhat deceptive.  There is a finite budget in terms of how much users can spend, but just because Zack Braff is taking money doesn't mean that money would have gone to someone else.

Totally true. In the end it's the consumers who are deciding what they do or don't want to support. I think in Zach Braff's case, his motivation for using Kickstarter, as he mentions in the video for his new project, is that the reason he went with Kickstarter over a company investing in his movie was to keep his artistic freedom through its development, and keep as much as the movie how he envisioned it as possible. I can dig that; I'm not going to pledge because I'm not familiar enough with the guy, but I respect what he's going for.

I got the idea from Ken Levine's blog that he believes people who already have the means to start a project shouldn't take the easy route out via Kickstarter because it diverts attention from smaller developers struggling to achieve their own project goals, which is a true enough statement in some cases.

As you said though, if somebody sees something and really wants to support it, they'll support it regardless of the other projects available. A movie Kickstarter isn't going to detract from an indie game Kickstarter. Heck, even from genre to genre, projects won't significantly interfere with each other in terms of how many people back them. It's just a matter of how they're publicized and how people feel about the project and the people involved, as well a their financial situation, what other projects they've backed recently, all sorts of variables to take into consideration. I know I'd like to back Chasm, but I really don't want to spend money for a little while and I'm pretty sure they'll do fine without my 5 bucks, so I'm not losing out on much.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 09, 2013, 12:54:23 AM
An interesting read: [url]http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/05/i-wont-give-zach-braff-one-dime.html[/url] ([url]http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/05/i-wont-give-zach-braff-one-dime.html[/url])


There has been some heated discussion on Reddit about stars abusing fame to get funding from fans or the consequences of corporations exploiting Kickstarter. I see Kickstarter as a way to support niche projects that need to know there is enough support out there for them to at least cover the production costs. For me, that definition does not restrict projects that are large scope or from famous people. If it is a viable project and the fans want to support it, I can't really tell them they can't back such a campaign as it is consumers voting with their wallets.

Zach Braff has posted a response (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1LY3C0Rbr8) to the critics of him using Kickstarter to raise over $2,000,000 for his new film project (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1869987317/wish-i-was-here-1). It was motivating to listen to and it indicates he understands that there are intrinsic rewards becoming a backer.

Having experienced what Kickstarter's ecosystem was like before Double Fine's famous campaign, I find these superstar campaigns cause more good than harm by bringing in new people who haven't backed a crowdfunding campaign before and that benefits the specific project category. The superstars have an important part of the ecosystem to fill. To get coverage in mainstream media raises awareness of crowdfunding for not only future backers but also future project creators. They do increase competition and raise expectations for the effort that needs to be put into preparing campaigns. I foresee that unknown indie devs are going to have to lower their prices to compete with more established creators when backers shop around the active projects for the most value and least risk. Smaller campaigns could also lose potential backers with not much gaming budget left for the month after just backing a superstar campaign.

Another topic that may become issues for people in the future are project creators that keep returning to Kickstarter with serial campaigns. An example from the Tabletop category has been Cool Mini or Not (http://www.kickstarter.com/profile/coolminiornot/created) that has funded 6 campaigns. Some may see this as hogging the platform while others might view it as a new emerging business model. There is the risk of companies using crowdfunding as a form of financial life support they might become too dependant on.



While scrolling through the Recently Launched feed today saw that the Penny Arcade's Podcast (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pennyarcade/penny-arcades-podcast-downloadable-content-the-ret) was at 356,469% funded (It had a low minimum goal). Yesterday also had the launch of The Stomping Land (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/524168447/the-stomping-land) that is a dinosaur hunting game that has been doing well. Even with untextured dinosaur models, the game's world feels very alive.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 09, 2013, 02:37:29 AM
Another topic that may become issues for people in the future are project creators that keep returning to Kickstarter with serial campaigns. An example from the Tabletop category has been Cool Mini or Not ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/profile/coolminiornot/created[/url]) that has funded 6 campaigns. Some may see this as hogging the platform while others might view it as a new emerging business model. There is the risk of companies using crowdfunding as a form of financial life support they might become too dependant on.


I'm afraid that will happen to a lot of companies which had successfull projects. If this becomes the modus operandi for a complany it isn't that much different from pre-orders anymore. As with every project, one needs to judge individually.

Yesterday also had the launch of The Stomping Land ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/524168447/the-stomping-land[/url]) that is a dinosaur hunting game that has been doing well. Even with untextured dinosaur models, the game's world feels very alive.

I get this Jurassic Park feeling from watching these large herds of dinosaurs moving across the land. Hopefully you get a different behavior for each kind of Dino and a larger variety of predators (like a Spinosaurus or any Raptor variat). I'm curious how they plan to keep the dinos important in later game, where The Stomping Land is supposed to become more PVP based.

Hey Lobster, what do you think about all these "Minimalistic Wallet" projects on kickstarter?
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 09, 2013, 09:30:12 AM
Hey Lobster, what do you think about all these "Minimalistic Wallet" projects on kickstarter?


There has been such a flood of minimalist wallets projects that it even tried my patience a bit. I'd refresh the Recently Launched feed and there would regularly be another wallet project. I commented on Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/kickstarter/comments/17pu03/kickstarter_trends_that_i_hope_are_over_for_2013/c87xx17) about it in a thread about trends (http://www.reddit.com/r/kickstarter/comments/17pu03/kickstarter_trends_that_i_hope_are_over_for_2013/) 3 months ago. There was even an article on Wired (http://www.wired.com/design/2013/03/kickstarters-wallet-economy/) about the flood.

In the Fashion (http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/categories/fashion/popular) category I currently only see 4 active:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/standout/froggy-wallet-leather-slim-minimal-expandable-wall
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1396900125/aj-wallet-think-quality
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/428784163/the-quick-wallet-rfid-blocking
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elliothavok/dash-20-wallet-the-leather-wallet-redesigned

In the Product Design (http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/categories/product design/popular) category I see 6 active:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1262752680/trayvax-wallet-for-life
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dizmio/dizmio-wallet-slim-small-minimal-rfid-blocking-wal
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/111161307/fit-wallet-a-thin-wallet-for-a-fit-community
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1916197525/uarrange-wallet-slide-and-see-all-your-cards-insta-0
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1774348275/turtleboxx-wallet
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kickwallet/kickwallet-never-have-a-wallet-can-be-such-simple

A KickSpy (http://www.kickspy.com/) search, that includes inactive and unsuccessful projects, had enough results that I gave up an attempt to count them.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on May 10, 2013, 07:05:42 AM

There has been such a flood of minimalist wallets projects that it even tried my patience a bit.

I am starting to feel the same way tbh.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Burrell on May 10, 2013, 09:37:48 AM
Dangit, and here I'd gone and bought stock in Minimalist Wallet futures.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 10, 2013, 10:14:40 AM
If I ever go on and create a scam, I'm going to start a flexible funding project about minimalistic wallet under the pretense of empowering women's rights.

Those will be the worlds most profitable use of rubberbands!

Now back to the realm of realism:
Did anyone here back NECRO (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/343838885/nekro?ref=live)? It looks amazing.

Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on May 10, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
Huh, looks very interesting! Maybe not exactly my kind of thing, but when they brought up Dungeon Keeper I thought of my friend who would probably love a game like this. I sent him a link to the Kickstarter, maybe he'll be interested in it ;)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 10, 2013, 08:23:25 PM
Did anyone here back NECRO ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/343838885/nekro?ref=live[/url])? It looks amazing.


I was their first backer and that project has a special place in my memories. I clearly remember how dissappointing it was to see that campaign struggle and began to try to promote it through YouTube comments. Nekro was featured on Total Biscuit's Kicksmarter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da3sIpv64Fs) which gave it enough of a boost on April 18th 2012 (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/343838885/nekro/#chart-daily) to set in on course to get funded. It was an example of how the a good project can be buried on the Kickstarter platform. The ability to discover campaigns was not as robust as it is now (It is still needs a means of sorting projects by launch date). There also weren't as many bloggers that covered Kickstarter campaigns back then.

On that Kicksmarter video you can find my comment asking for people to take a look at Spate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I6YV_EqqCQ) and Cloudberry Kingdom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOTBy0lKSbo) which were two other campaigns special to me. Both I had been the first backer and both were stuggling to reach their goals despite being strong projects. Spate was the first campaign of many where I had long discussions back and forth with the project creator about how to get the campaign funded. It was not the first time I gave advice, but it was the first time the discussion became lengthy and in depth. I had found posting comments on YouTube to promote projects not to be worth the effort as they were ignored or buried, so that lead to me to start Lobster's List for Kickstarter to begin building up something that could help future campaigns. I disliked how inefficient Total Biscuits Kicksmarter video was, so I went with a more efficient format that did not just repeating everything the project page lists. Spate went on to win season 2 of The Next Game Boss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AljUclbAYKY). Cloudberry Kingdom went on to make a a deal with Ubisoft (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/11/ubisoft-picks-up-cloudberry-kingdom/). Nekro has been showing off its progress (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14igjjQR610).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Dynimix on May 13, 2013, 07:20:55 AM
Dangit, and here I'd gone and bought stock in Minimalist Wallet futures.

He is doomed...

Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 20, 2013, 03:01:31 PM
On May 15th there was an update to Kickstater itself that changes some features and simplified the look of project pages. I dislike how they removed the short URL box, but It is nice to see that Kicktraq now supports tracking when a project receives comments.

A new batch of projects are starting to launch with the approach of June.

Heavy Gear Assault (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stompybot/heavy-gear-assault-0) is a new game in the Heavy Gear series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Gear) using Unreal 4. I watched the TV series (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KQdl5k3y0E) but never played any of the games. If you like mecha combat this is a project to follow.

Deus Ex Machina 2 (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1552445321/deus-ex-machina-2) is the sequel to the game released in 1984 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex_Machina_%28video_game%29) and has Christopher Lee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Lee) as a voiceactor. The project really suffers from not explaining what the gameplay part of the game is to people that didn't experience the original.

Spintires (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/358753914/spintires-the-ultimate-off-road-challenge) is a realistic offroading simulator where you can drive big Russian vehicles through muddy forest roads.

Meanwhile, Tiny Keep has been making some interesting posts to Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1eozyj/monster_ai_system_explained_part_2_of_5/) explaining its artificial intelligence implementations. Hopefully this project reaches its goal in its last 24 hours.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 20, 2013, 04:32:39 PM
Heavy Gear Assault:While the game looks alright, I'm not sure what to think of kickstarting an pseudo subscription model. I know Camelot Unchained passed through as well, but isn't Kickstarter against projects that need maintenance?

Deus Ex Machima 2: After watching a 3 part gameplay video and reading wikipedia, I'm still not sure what this game is about. It's about the life of some defect? WTF is pretty much what I think about the game right now. I'd be thankful if somebody could shed some light onto this.

Spintire: Someone deticated their time to creating an actually good looking, equipped with real physics simulator? I'll keep an eye on this one.


It's weird that nobody ever mentioned Camelot Unchained. If they keep word for at least some of each of their Foundational Principles, that game will be one hell of an MMO.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 22, 2013, 01:22:58 AM
The first Deus Ex Machina game is bizarre to listen to. I'd describe it as an experimental interactive art piece on the limited computer hardware at the time made possible by using audio tapes. I probably watched the same video on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwJBsYJ16IE). This project is very niche.

Camelot Unchained was one of those campaigns where a lot of people celebrated it reaching its goal in the big last 48 hours push (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained/#chart-daily). There were a lot of comments. Takedown (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/355932838/crowdsourced-hardcore-tactical-shooter/) was probably the most intense final hours countdown I've experienced for a campaign and it was one of the few times I backed a campaign on its last day.

A project that looks like its first 24 hours in the Recently Launched feed did not go well was Side Quest (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460827633/sidequest-v2). It is a colourful 2D MMORPG that has a strong personality to it and implementations of many of the systems like inventory seem to be in place. It reminds me the time I was playing a lot of Flash-base games in highschool during lunchhours. Currently it has only myself at the $5 tier and one other backer with a $1 pledge.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on May 22, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
ZX Spectrum Deus Ex Machina - Side 2, Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXFRzRh3Av4) This game is super surreal... "WAR CRIMES ARE EASY!"

This is really getting a second project kickstarted? I can't tell if I'd like to see what that'd look like or not XD Well I guess it's not so much how much I'd like to see it as how much I'd support it getting funded. How much are they asking for?
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Burrell on May 23, 2013, 10:30:34 AM
A project that looks like its first 24 hours in the Recently Launched feed did not go well was Side Quest ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460827633/sidequest-v2[/url]). It is a colourful 2D MMORPG that has a strong personality to it and implementations of many of the systems like inventory seem to be in place. It reminds me the time I was playing a lot of Flash-base games in highschool during lunchhours. Currently it has only myself at the $5 tier and one other backer with a $1 pledge.



Interesting. It doesn't really hit any of my buttons, but the presentation/art is cohesive, it's at least a tried-and-test gameplay setup, and $5k is a pitance on KS anymore it seems... particularly if this is Round #2 for them. What do you think has gone wrong?
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 23, 2013, 09:19:52 PM
Interesting. It doesn't really hit any of my buttons, but the presentation/art is cohesive, it's at least a tried-and-test gameplay setup, and $5k is a pitance on KS anymore it seems... particularly if this is Round #2 for them. What do you think has gone wrong?


This is a campaign that could be expected to be funded with as few as 150 to 200 backers. It may not be amazing like Stonehearth, but it looks like there is a lot of solid execution instead of just presenting concepts.

One line of thought is that is should target its marketing to a younger audience as this was the type of game I would have played if I was in my teenage years. For a 20 to 30 year old there exist other active projects that be more attractive to pledge to. A downside of that route of targeting younger players is it would have to be made more "family friendly" such as redesigning the cleric character and that could then initiate a long series of changes to tame it because the parents hold the credit cards. It would be like a publisher messing with the game to target a broader audience that indie developers come to Kickstarter to avoid. I should maybe look to see where the projects that are Neopets clones promoted themselves to get fully funded.

Another is that there isn't enough incentive to pledge now instead of waiting to see what happens. The previous attempts' rewards were a bit awkward cheap feeling. $50 to have a weapon you design put in the game is a nice reward, but the lower tiers are "soft" in that there really isn't a tier I immediately want to jump to when first seeing this project. I would have done a very strong $8 tier with beta testing, an in-game supporter item and a significant chunk of in-game currency to start off. The higher reward tiers would be things like design a quest chain or NPC. I also feel Free2Play game needs a $1 pledge level with at least something like being mentioned on a thank you page. Very limited early-bird rewards could also have helped.

Being a browser-based game may also be an issue. People may be more comfortable with a game as a fully downloaded client or as a mobile game since ability hotbar intense games can work well on a touchscreen. If it was redesigned for Ouya then it could maybe get some attention.

What I think is the main problem is exposure as I haven't been finding any real results for the campaign when I do advanced Google searches. It is like they just put up on the Kickstarter site without telling anyone and now it is buried in the discovery feed so deep that it doesn't get much views. The previous campaign had 48 backers, but there was not a project update there to alert them of the existences of the new campaign so they could return. I am not even finding downvoted Reddit threads or unresponded to forum posts that I often find from creators spamming links around on day 1.



A project that really has me excited after it launched today is creators of the anime Eve no Jikan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_Eve) are trying to bring that anime to Blu-ray for fans outside of Japan (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/693293489/time-of-eve-the-movie-on-blu-ray). It is a similar feeling to when I saw the anime film Kick-Heart (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/production-ig/masaaki-yuasas-kick-heart) launch.

There is also a RPG called Unrest (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/698883673/unrest-an-unconventional-rpg-set-in-ancient-india) that is set in India. It is using an adaptive narrative as its main selling points. For example, if a character is killed the story incorporates that death and you take control of the next character.

Evil Is Not An Option (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/503808086/no-evil-alowed) is an action RPG I am following. The combat and physics have a nice look to them with the character movements having a visual feel like a 2D Prince of Persia or Canabalt. It may be a bit too early for this game to come to Kickstarter as there are many blue placeholder shapes. I am not sure what the final game will look like for its art. While you can say that something is an alpha and everything will be replaced there will be people that mentally don't connect that. There is a post about the "Iceberg Secret" (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000356.html) I keep bookmarked about software engineers facing that problem.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Burrell on May 24, 2013, 12:15:38 PM
What I think is the main problem is exposure as I haven't been finding any real results for the campaign when I do advanced Google searches. It is like they just put up on the Kickstarter site without telling anyone and now it is buried in the discovery feed so deep that it doesn't get much views. The previous campaign had 48 backers, but there was not a project update there to alert them of the existences of the new campaign so they could return. I am not even finding downvoted Reddit threads or unresponded to forum posts that I often find from creators spamming links around on day 1.


This is pretty critical. We've had quite a few people ask us for advice or opinions after our KS was successful, and it's been somewhat mind-blowing to me that people seem to feel like they can't announce their project, or don't know how.


Going into our KS we had few press contacts, and basically none that we had a personal relationship with. We prepared a down-to-earth release with a synopsis of the campaign and sent it off to every press link we could find. Several people I've talked to have been incredulous that they can "cold call" the press, which is interesting given that the vast majority of sites have a "Send Us A Tip" link for the general public to cue them in on stories. It does put the pressure on the campaign runner to make sure that what they have immediately grabs the attention of the press person in question but that exists regardless; your idea and presentation have to be good to get noticed.


And as you mention, there are other routes you can take to get at least some level of pickup, like Reddit or other public forum-type spaces. However, those communities typically have codes of conduct (written or implied) that you could violate i.e. you shouldn't create an account to just announce that you want money from people - you need to have been a functioning part of that community ahead of time, ideally. TIG Source has a policy against this for instance, where if your first post as a newly registered user is to promote your game you're insta-banned for life.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 24, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
And as you mention, there are other routes you can take to get at least some level of pickup, like Reddit or other public forum-type spaces. However, those communities typically have codes of conduct (written or implied) that you could violate i.e. you shouldn't create an account to just announce that you want money from people - you need to have been a functioning part of that community ahead of time, ideally. TIG Source has a policy against this for instance, where if your first post as a newly registered user is to promote your game you're insta-banned for life.

An active Reddit account (or similar) makes it much easy to get a quick overview on the dev's personality/opinons/etc. But yes, these are extremely driven by the "ONE OF US" mentality.


On Kickstarter it is almost obligatory to use some buzzwords like nostalgia, like INSERT FAMOUS FRNCHISE, unothodox or innovative.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 28, 2013, 09:01:46 PM
Trying to promote where it will be unwelcome is an easy way to waste effort. I've seen a lot of dead threads to the places like the official Unity forums when researching projects' backgrounds. I learned myself that just commenting to YouTube wasn't effective. I'll often tailor my reccomendations based on the individual nature of a campaign, such as games with retro art styles being more welcome at some blogs over others. Video Games have it much easier than other project categories on Kickstarter. In comparison, I have much less options prepared for how to promote an animation project. There are a lot of gathering places for potential backers of video games on the Internet and places emerging that specialize in covering crowdfunding.

If you do get your foot in the door, it should also be the job of a project creator to make the bloggers' jobs easier with presskits and generally not annoy the blogger. I see Pixelscopic has a presskit (http://pixelscopic.com/presskit/sheet.php) that uses presskit() (http://dopresskit.com/). I've been reccomending that tool since I learned about it in an episode of IndieChatter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx8gIQf144s). I also like to suggest a project have an infographic to supplement or be an alternative to a presskit. It often takes me much longer to research a game then to record and edit a segment for it. It can also benefit general backers by having a lot of information at a glance. Examples of this done well are the inforgraphics for Paper Sorcerer (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2088045881/paper-sorcerer/posts/244196) and Spate (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/379113968/spate).

I find Reddit can be brutal. Posts can be downvoted out of visibility or raised to the very top with as little reason as you were unlucky with the time of day it was made or if your post disagrees with the groupthink of the subreddit. There are subreddits like /r/kickstarter (http://www.reddit.com/r/kickstarter/) where the downvote buttons have been removed in the page's style sheet (The downvote keyboard shortcut still works) making it a more welcoming place. When I reccomend a subreddit to a project creator I mention the rules are in the sidebar. I've seen too many "Hey, look at my game!" post titles. That title neither tells me anything substantial about the game so I don't have much incentive besides curiousity to click it. I reccomend that a title have the name and then a description with some good selling point.

As I've mentioned before in this thread, TinyKeep (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/phidinh/tinykeep/#chart-daily) has the strategy of promoting the game on Reddit by teaching AI instead of just spamming its link. The account was created during the campaign (http://www.reddit.com/user/phidinh6/submitted/). The idea is that if you are creating value in the community, they will be more accepting of you even if you haven't been there for long. There is the downside that struggling indie devs asking other financially struggling indie devs for money doesn't get many large pledges. (On that note, TinyKeep is in its final push at just 82% right now.)



This week brings a batch of good projects.

Our Darker Purpose (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1750899614/our-darker-purpose-0) is a creepy action RPG with rogue-like elements. An orphan has to deal with paranormal phenomenon, and bullies, in a school where the teachers disappeared.

Armikrog (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1949537745/armikrog) is an adventure game from the creator of Eathworm Jim that is using stop-motion animation. I like the character Beak-Beak.

Call of The Wild (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/caiys/call-of-the-wild-0) is a 2D pixel art wilderness survival game. The project page is a bit sparse right now, but I was aware of the previous game from this dev (http://caiysware.com/ilamentia).

Kickstarted (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/696739710/kickstarted-documenting-the-crowdfunding-revolutio/posts/49381) is one of a number of attempts to make a documentary about Kickstarter. This might actually be the campaign to do it, although I find the rewards to be uncomfortably steep. If it does stall out then it can rely on the interviewed superstar project creators to help promote it.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Burrell on May 29, 2013, 09:43:12 AM
Call of The Wild is a 2D pixel art wilderness survival game. The project page is a bit sparse right now, but I was aware of the previous game from this dev.


This looks pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 29, 2013, 02:14:55 PM

I find Reddit can be brutal. Posts can be downvoted out of visibility or raised to the very top with as little reason as you were unlucky with the time of day it was made or if your post disagrees with the groupthink of the subreddit.

As I've mentioned before in this thread, TinyKeep ([url]http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/phidinh/tinykeep/#chart-daily[/url]) has the strategy of promoting the game on Reddit by teaching AI instead of just spamming its link. The account was created during the campaign ([url]http://www.reddit.com/user/phidinh6/submitted/[/url]). The idea is that if you are creating value in the community, they will be more accepting of you even if you haven't been there for long. There is the downside that struggling indie devs asking other financially struggling indie devs for money doesn't get many large pledges. (On that note, TinyKeep is in its final push at just 82% right now.)

He got it right, you need to involve them into some kind discussion in order to keep the flames fanned. If people talk about it, you are halfway there.


Our Darker Purpose ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1750899614/our-darker-purpose-0[/url]) is a creepy action RPG with rogue-like elements. An orphan has to deal with paranormal phenomenon, and bullies, in a school where the teachers disappeared.

Armikrog ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1949537745/armikrog[/url]) is an adventure game from the creator of Eathworm Jim that is using stop-motion animation. I like the character Beak-Beak.

These are the reason why I like kickstarter. Real oddballs!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on May 29, 2013, 03:53:41 PM
Holy hell! Doug TenNapel's making a new game? I gotta jump on this! Absolutely love Earthworm Jim and The NeverHood, now this is exciting, thanks for bringing it up! XD

Edit: Oh my god, they've got Robert J. Nelson from MST3K on the project? I... I must... Must pledge money to Armikrog.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 29, 2013, 04:17:26 PM
Good times. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyOy5QDEjyQ)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on May 29, 2013, 04:43:35 PM
The memories are just flooding back to me XD

Remember the water levels? Oh boy, maneuvering in that little pod was just hell.

Yup, I backed the project, no regrets. Love that guy, he is one of my biggest inspirations :P
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: TheLazyGeek on May 29, 2013, 06:29:34 PM
Armikrog looks great and has a lot of people working on it I love.  Totally going to back this if I have enough come the end of June.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 29, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
Armikrog is almost at the 25% mark and is still gaining momentum (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1949537745/armikrog/). The Lazy Game Reviews episode for The Neverhood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN1-Y1wJzbM) should give a good feel of the game this project is pitching if your like me and never played it before. Using stop-motion does sound like an easy way for a game to fall behind in a game's production schedule.

Today there was the launch of A Hat in Time (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonaskaerlev/a-hat-in-time-3d-collect-a-thon-platformer) which is a 3D platformer with collectibles that fans of Banjo-Kazooie should click on. It links to a video of Super Mario 64 modded for multiplayer support (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJTLOiz5kws) for an example of how they want to implement 2 player co-op. I hope they do make reach that multiplayer stretch goal.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 30, 2013, 04:07:27 AM
Today there was the launch of A Hat in Time ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonaskaerlev/a-hat-in-time-3d-collect-a-thon-platformer[/url]) which is a 3D platformer with collectibles that fans of Banjo-Kazooie should click on. It links to a video of Super Mario 64 modded for multiplayer support ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJTLOiz5kws[/url]) for an example of how they want to implement 2 player co-op. I hope they do make reach that multiplayer stretch goal.


30,000$ seems rather cheap considering the amount of work needed to be done. How's that even possible? Other than that, I need to shell out money for this. It has cell shading (which is in the progress of becoming an artform similar to pixelart; meaning it's kind of timeless) and a 3D platformer with it's own unique style.

I noticed that Nintendo is the big winner when it comes to kickstarter. PS4 is rarely mentioned and no notable project I saw until now mentions Xbox at all. Many indies of today are huge Nintendo fans, so the releasing on a Nintendo platform is a dream to come true for many of them.

 I wonder if the next generations will be influenced the same way by PS/Xbox (probably not as their main customers don't seem to be the tech types.).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on May 30, 2013, 04:19:20 AM
Definitely agreed on Cel-Shading, I'd love to learn about how to do it myself, I love the smooth, simplistic style and vibrant colors of games like Wind Waker. El Shaddai, despite being sort of a lackluster hack 'n slash, was still a greatly enjoyable experience because of the way its levels varied so much from each other and utilized Cel-Shading to achieve some really awesome visual effects. Not to mention the music as well as the aesthetics and looks of each chapter for that game rocked... Yeah, I'd definitely love to learn how to do Cel-Shading well, one of my favorite art styles for sure.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 30, 2013, 01:22:16 PM
Massive Chalice (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/doublefine/double-fines-massive-chalice) by Double Fine.
A turn based strategy game that takes into consideration longtime strategies.

They currently have far to less info to judge if this is going to be great or not, but the pitch looks promising.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on May 30, 2013, 01:38:41 PM
Well Double Fine never fails to provide unique and fresh games with a wacky sense of humor, so I trust em to put out something pretty sweet. Not a huge turn-based strategy game buff myself, but we'll see how it ends up working out. Either way it's probably a given that they'll smash through their set funding goal within a couple of days; they're Double Fine after all :P
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: TheLazyGeek on May 30, 2013, 03:18:35 PM
Well Double Fine never fails to provide unique and fresh games with a wacky sense of humor, so I trust em to put out something pretty sweet. Not a huge turn-based strategy game buff myself, but we'll see how it ends up working out. Either way it's probably a given that they'll smash through their set funding goal within a couple of days; they're Double Fine after all :P

Yeah, I have no doubt they'll rocket past that initial goal.  Maybe even double it.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 30, 2013, 06:46:30 PM
Its at almost 340k already. They better start making up stretch goals.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on June 09, 2013, 11:33:01 PM
Massive Chalice is now past its minimum goal. I slightly dislike the pitch video for Massive Chalice for taking to long to convey what the game is. It did improve when the project leader was drawing on the whiteboard. I think the Double Fine Adventure pitch video served the function of a pitch better. Double Fine can get away with it because they are both entertaining and Double Fine, but I am worried that others will try to use such sketches as their pitch videos and fail at both at being funny or efficiently conveying information.

A Hat in Time has smashed its stretch goals. With all that funding I hope they make a great game that inspires other indies to make 3D platformers.

Armikrog is at only 53% with 17 days to go. It could be very close, but I am hopeful as the Kicktraq trend is to 119%.



A science fiction adventure game called Abducted (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/abducted/abducted-1) from the studio that made the game Crow (http://www.sunsidegames.com/crow/) is now on Kickstarter. It looks to be well made and it would be nice if more in-game footage was shown.

A new batch of indie games should be getting ready to launch. From The Heavens (http://www.reddit.com/r/IndieGaming/comments/1evrkv/a_soon_to_be_kickstarted_project_from_the_heavens/) has a Darwinia like art-style. I like the SNES mode 7 look to some of the graphics of Dwarf Corp (http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1fwm67/screenshot_saturday_122_only_the_pixels_can_save/caeq5ud). I played a bit too much of the demo for the tower defence game called The Magnificent Time-Traveling Adventures of Mr. Fiskers (http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1fwm67/screenshot_saturday_122_only_the_pixels_can_save/caei9ke).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Knight Pattern on June 10, 2013, 11:16:01 PM
Mild excitement levels for A Hat in Time cause it has been yoiks since I last played a collectathon.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on June 18, 2013, 11:32:51 PM
Armikrog's trend on Kicktraq has now dipped below its goal amount despite many backers upgrading their pledges.



Frontiers (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/railboy/frontiers-explore-discover-survive) is an open-world RPG that has been doing very well since launching this week. The creator blogged (http://aadgames.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-story-of-guy-who-discovered-that.html) about a bad experience with IndieGoGo that helped get the project some attention.

There is a Sci-Fi 2.5D action platformer Dark Matter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/interwave/dark-matter-1) that launched today. I like the use of blue, yellow and orange lighting in the environments. It is from InterWave that released the hybrid FPS/RTS Nuclear Dawn (http://store.steampowered.com/app/17710) back in 2011.
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Post by: TheLazyGeek on June 19, 2013, 02:09:31 AM
Oh look, it's what Other M should have been; could have been.  Dark Matter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/interwave/dark-matter-1)

I always love me some 2.5D shooting action, but this one looks like it got some Alan Wake mixed into it with the lighting/shadows element.
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Post by: Doomspeaker on June 19, 2013, 02:52:41 AM
My only gripe with this game is that it seems to be zoomed in too much. It's always annoys me when monsters are hidden out of sight for no reason.
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Post by: Quady14 on June 19, 2013, 04:39:46 PM
I'm kinda sad Armikrog is dipping like it has been, I was really hoping there would be more support, but I guess the point 'n click adventure genre isn't the most promising thing on the planet, especially when it needs almost 1 million dollars to fund, I totally understand why the cost is higher than your average game, but I guess maybe it's not totally practical in terms of price-wiseness. The guys on the project are staying hopeful, so I will too, but they're gonna have to pull some crazy stunts to reach their goal with only a week left. I'm not sure I'm too into the whole "add-on" system they have going on in addition to reward tiers, is that a common thing used with kickstarter projects or was that mostly their idea?

As far as Dark Matter goes... I'm not sure I dig it. I wasn't a fan of Other M by a longshot either, (the action was average aside from stupid insta-kills that came out of nowhere but everything else was mediocre) still though, Dark Matter looks to be leaning more towards bland and slow to me. I look at it and I'd rather pick up GBA Metroid games, because they play a lot more smoothly and satisfyingly than this looks to.
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Post by: Doomspeaker on June 19, 2013, 04:54:53 PM
I'm kinda sad Armikrog is dipping like it has been, I was really hoping there would be more support, but I guess the point 'n click adventure genre isn't the most promising thing on the planet, especially when it needs almost 1 million dollars to fund, I totally understand why the cost is higher than your average game, but I guess maybe it's not totally practical in terms of price-wiseness.
I think it has more to do with Doug TenNapel public statements about certain topics. Kickstarter is as much believing in the project as it is believing in the people behind the project. 

As far as Dark Matter goes... I'm not sure I dig it. I wasn't a fan of Other M by a longshot either, (the action was average aside from stupid insta-kills that came out of nowhere but everything else was mediocre) still though, Dark Matter looks to be leaning more towards bland and slow to me. I look at it and I'd rather pick up GBA Metroid games, because they play a lot more smoothly and satisfyingly than this looks to.
Yeah, there is this new breed of two 2D games that don't really get the platforming part. This is often done under the pretense of realism. Running through corridos, facing a monsters just standing there and gunning them down without much vetical movement is rather boring.
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Post by: Quady14 on June 19, 2013, 05:23:05 PM
Yeah... TenNapel's a talented guy but I definitely don't agree with his views at all about certain things. Really disrespectful if you ask me... I don't know, I guess it's sort of another one of those "Would you buy this even though it's supporting somebody who you know isn't the most savory fellow around" deals, like we discussed with Fez a month or two back. It's not all that different, but I have a history of enjoying the games and short films TenNapel has had a part in making since I was a kid and before I knew about some of the nastier things he's said in interviews, so I didn't let it dissuade me. I guess in those cases you either decide not to support the person making the game, or just treat the game and the person as separate entities and enjoy it for what it is. Kind of a moral conundrum, it's lame when you love the things somebody creates, but can't respect the person like you respect their games. :/
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Post by: Quady14 on June 23, 2013, 10:41:28 AM
I thought about it for a while, read a few more articles, watched a few humorous but very true videos about the general issue in different contexts, and decided to change my mind; backing Armikrog isn't really for me, even if I enjoyed previous works like Earthworm Jim and The Neverhood and grew up with games TenNapel was behind. It's kind of looking bleak for the project anyways with so little time left and still 1/3 of their goal to fulfill, and in a way I feel bad for not supporting the other members of Pencil Test studios just because I don't support TenNapel's attitude and beliefs towards others, but I feel better stepping back from the project from a moral standpoint.

I actually only found out about how bad the issue was a couple of days after initially backing the project, and since then every time I would look at the page I'd have a slight pang of regret about supporting someone who makes such paranoid, bigoted statements without any sort of remorse. Like you said Doom, Kickstarter is as much believing in the project as it is believing in the people behind the project, and I don't think I believe in TenNapel quite as much as I used to.

I feel kind of crappy about the whole situation overall, but I think stepping back from it is the best thing to do for my own peace of mind.
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Post by: LobsterSundew on June 24, 2013, 04:58:10 PM
A little charming Earthbound (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EarthBound)-like RPG called Undertale (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1002143342/undertale) has been capturing attention this morning. That project thumbnail image is so good it should be a poster reward. It already has over 300 backers.

OZombie (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spicyhorse/ozombie) is the latest game from the creator of Alice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_McGee%27s_Alice). Earlier this year he had a successful campaign for Akaneiro: Demon Hunters (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spicyhorse/akaneiro-demon-hunters).
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Post by: Doomspeaker on June 24, 2013, 05:33:11 PM
Under Tale: Uhm, what kind of artstyle is that, not my case. They are rather low on information, way too early to say if it's good or not. They want to support a pacifist way of playing the game; this could really help to distiguish it from other rpgs.


So McGee decided on The Wizard of Oz instead of getting an Alice license from EA (wouldn't have gotten it anyway).
I really hope they succeed, because Alice: Madness Returns showed that spicey horse really has potential. I'm a bit confused by the multiplayer part though, but it's mentioned that multiplayer is not the main part. I really hope this succeeds if only for a wonderful reinterpretation of a classical tale in the same vein such as Alice.
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Post by: LobsterSundew on June 26, 2013, 12:37:37 AM
Under Tale: Uhm, what kind of artstyle is that, not my case. They are rather low on information, way too early to say if it's good or not. They want to support a pacifist way of playing the game; this could really help to distiguish it from other rpgs.

Undertale's overall presentation is very strong for its target niche. The art style invokes heavy sense of nostalgia for me. A lot information about the game like its combat system was conveyed by watching it in action. I've also been impressed by the first three project updates (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1002143342/undertale/posts) that have been made. A project from the past I'm remined of is Sealark (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1338986832/sealark-an-oceanic-adventure-game). It too relied mostly on its presentation to convince backers. The pitch video is a girl in a boat fishing.

So McGee decided on The Wizard of Oz instead of getting an Alice license from EA (wouldn't have gotten it anyway).

OZombie has made a post (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spicyhorse/ozombie/posts/519854) about being in negotiations to make another Alice game after this one.



Speaking of nostalgia, Dropsy (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jaytholen/dropsy-a-surreal-exploration-based-adventure-game) is a point and click adventure game, based on a 2008 comic (http://jaytholen.net/dropsy2.html), that has returned to Kickstarter. The first campaign happened in 2011 and was the 4th campaign I backed on Kickstarter. If you like games that use weirdness as a strength then take a look. The uniqueness of the audio (http://jtholen.bandcamp.com/track/clown-napped) is a big selling point for me as it fits (http://jtholen.bandcamp.com/track/dropsy-loves-you) the world of the game.

There was also a hack and slash called HollowFear (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1098556542/hollowfear) that has some tower defence and RPG elements. I like how well the writeups (http://hollowfear.com/battle-tactics/) for the game were done.
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Post by: wraithbone on July 11, 2013, 10:49:14 PM
What are our thoughts on Warmachine Tactics (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/409030043/warmachine-tactics)?

$20 is a good entry point for what looks (admittedly from marketing material) to be a quality title.

Is $65 too steep for a beta entry point?
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Post by: Doomspeaker on July 12, 2013, 03:04:37 AM
I was looking into it was well. They seem to be in the right spot at the right time, because gamesworkshop has only just annouced their partnership with slither games.

65 for beta is rather steep if you ask me.

Other than that is looks like a good catch, because they already got a working game to base the game on. And they are guaranteed to hit lots of stretch goals.
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Post by: wraithbone on July 12, 2013, 05:52:37 AM
...They seem to be in the right spot at the right time, because gamesworkshop has only just annouced their partnership with slither games.
...

Yeah, GW has announced partnerships with:
Rodeo Entertainment for Warhammer Quest (WFB)
Full Control for a remake of Space Hulk (2013)
Slitherine for a 40k turn based RTS (2014)
and
Behaviour Interactive for a 40k MMORPG (2015)
also
Sega for a WFB game, details not availble (2014~15)

Possible rumours that the relic team (now with Sega, after the fall of THQ)  will one day pick up Dawn of War 3.

So GW is pushing the video game sector hard with its IP.

No surprise one of its big competitors is too.
Cool thing about Warmachine: Tactics is its being published by privateer press (makers of the table top game), not pushed out to some third party publisher.

Im surprised Infinity hasn't started to push into the video game sector, maybe they will follow Warmachine.
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Post by: Doomspeaker on July 12, 2013, 10:32:45 AM
...They seem to be in the right spot at the right time, because gamesworkshop has only just annouced their partnership with slither games.
...

Yeah, GW has announced partnerships with:
Rodeo Entertainment for Warhammer Quest (WFB)
Full Control for a remake of Space Hulk (2013)
Slitherine for a 40k turn based RTS (2014)
and
Behaviour Interactive for a 40k MMORPG (2015)
also
Sega for a WFB game, details not availble (2014~15)

Possible rumours that the relic team (now with Sega, after the fall of THQ)  will one day pick up Dawn of War 3.

So GW is pushing the video game sector hard with its IP.

No surprise one of its big competitors is too.
Cool thing about Warmachine: Tactics is its being published by privateer press (makers of the table top game), not pushed out to some third party publisher.

Im surprised Infinity hasn't started to push into the video game sector, maybe they will follow Warmachine.

Well I'm not that suprised that you're a tabletop fan. If those figures weren't so expensive....

Anyway, it looks like turn based tactical games fare pretty well on Kickstarter (C-Wars, Kronos, Telepath Tactics etc.)
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Post by: wraithbone on July 12, 2013, 04:45:45 PM
Well I'm not that suprised that you're a tabletop fan. If those figures weren't so expensive....
Was my was my screen name & avatar & signature a giveaway?  :P

Yeah GW make the best minis out there, they know it, and price accordingly.
Kinda sucks, but as someone pointed out they are the "Ferrari" of TT gaming. Warmachine is like the Mercedes of TT and infinity sits in the toyota range.

My friends who play 40k gloat. "I spent $400 on Spehs Mareens this year!" Being a cheap student who part-times, I'm more like... "they charge HOW MUCH for wraithguard/blade now!?"

Anyway, it looks like turn based tactical games fare pretty well on Kickstarter (C-Wars, Kronos, Telepath Tactics etc.)

I guess there is demand for them. Hopefully that means the slitherine game does well.
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Post by: LobsterSundew on July 25, 2013, 09:55:34 PM
DwarfCorp (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1078333633/dwarfcorp/) is game where you control a colony of dwarves exporting resources via hot air balloon pickups. It received a Staff Pick and was the 3rd ranked project (http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90056670/Images/July25th_dwarfcorp_3rd.png) in today's top ten.

I am preparing a Kickstarter guide for Reddit's /r/gamedev using DwarfCorp as an example since I helped shape the project page. Here is a sneak peek (http://www.reddit.com/r/kickstarter/comments/1ib70v/what_are_some_good_crowdfunding_advice_blogs_or/cb2w5y9) about designing main reward tiers.
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Post by: crinaya on August 10, 2013, 02:32:26 PM
I know it is outside the realm of video games, but I figured I would plug this kickstarter that I am backing. 

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/673576049/the-agents-a-double-edged-cards-game (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/673576049/the-agents-a-double-edged-cards-game)

It's a card game with a lot of cerebral strategy needed to fully execute.  It's obviously super-backed and may very well hit all published stretch goals, but I thought it might be something interesting to share with the group.

There is some controversy behind it as the creator, Saar Shai, was involved in another kickstarter (Ringbow) that still has not fulfilled from over a year ago.  There has been much discussion about it within the campaign, and it's interesting to see how it influences some people and not others.
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Post by: LobsterSundew on August 20, 2013, 10:48:26 PM
I know it is outside the realm of video games, but I figured I would plug this kickstarter that I am backing. 

[url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/673576049/the-agents-a-double-edged-cards-game[/url] ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/673576049/the-agents-a-double-edged-cards-game[/url])

It's a card game with a lot of cerebral strategy needed to fully execute.  It's obviously super-backed and may very well hit all published stretch goals, but I thought it might be something interesting to share with the group.

There is some controversy behind it as the creator, Saar Shai, was involved in another kickstarter (Ringbow) that still has not fulfilled from over a year ago.  There has been much discussion about it within the campaign, and it's interesting to see how it influences some people and not others.


The thread on BoardGameGeek (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1006102/pledge-pulled) about that issue was an interesting read. I'm leaning towards the Ringbow being too large in scope than being a scam.

The project page itself for The Agents is very well done, especially the page's neatly arranged graphics. The rewards also work well, although I noticed it does not go higher than a $400 tier. The game looks good. If this project had launched in 2012 I would have probably backed it quickly. This year I've kind of stopped backing the tabletop games as I don't really have anyone to regularly play against now that I'm out of college dorms. Game nights also often default to Puerto Rico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico_%28board_game%29) or Settlers of Catan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Settlers_of_Catan).



August hasn't been impressing me for projects as much as past months this year.

Dungeons the Eye of Draconus (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/suckerfreegames/dungeons-the-eye-of-draconus-completion-fund-ouya) is a co-op brawler where you can play as a drinking diabetic barbarian and ride a flame breathing chicken mount.

U55 End of the Line (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/u55/u55-end-of-the-line) is a first-person horror game set in a dark German subway system that has some good graphics.

Antithesis, Reality (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rushswope/antithesis-reality-a-conceptual-exploration-in-noi) is a small project for a noir story game that seems to have completely stalled out. I don't like seeing a project stall out so easily.



I've posted the Kickstarter guide to Reddit that I mentioned in my previous post.
LINK (http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1k67t0/a_lobsters_guide_for_video_game_projects_on/?sort=old)

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Post by: Quady14 on August 20, 2013, 10:55:43 PM
A drinking diabetic barbarian? Oh my god, that sounds like my kind of game!

I SHALL BE THE KING OF DIABEETIS!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/t5t6pg.jpg)

U55 looks really good too, I absolutely love the setting, so if they do the right things with it I'll have to keep a very close eye on that one.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Burrell on August 21, 2013, 08:39:52 AM
I've posted the Kickstarter guide to Reddit that I mentioned in my previous post.
LINK ([url]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1k67t0/a_lobsters_guide_for_video_game_projects_on/?sort=old[/url])



I wanted to let you know that I shared this link with the Indie Megabooth Google Group as many of the companies involved are either in the midst of a KS campaign or considering one in the future, and to say this would be helpful to them would be a vast understatement.
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Post by: crinaya on August 23, 2013, 05:23:36 PM
Last 50 hours for The Agents (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/673576049/the-agents-a-double-edged-cards-game) if anyone is interested.

Also, for those interested in Kickstarter tactics, Jamey from Stonemaier Games also has a blog with Kickstarter theory he has learned in having two successful board game Kickstarter campaigns.  It can be found here (http://www.stonemaiergames.com/kickstarter/).
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Post by: Deltius on August 26, 2013, 12:28:10 PM
We spend 191,626 hours or close to twenty-two years of our lives sleeping.  Ever wished we could have those years back? to beat sleep?  What would we do with the time? What would the consequences be? If any of y'all enjoy Graphic Novels or if that above statement caught your attention then I recommend checking out R.E.M. (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rcolucci/rem-the-graphic-novel) It seems to have a pretty interesting story/plot with some striking black and white artwork for it.  They even have a small animated trailer in the Kickstarter promo video and also a short live action mini film here (http://www.remchair.com/video.html_423_trailer). 
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Post by: Doomspeaker on September 01, 2013, 06:58:13 AM
@LobsterSundew: A good developer often sadly gets shot down because they are not good at marketing. This will certainly help a lot of people for their future campaigns to come to fruition!

@Deltius: Took the liberty to fix you last link if that's ok.
They sell as pdf, that earns extra points, because in the past there were plenty of books I'd love to at least get a digital glimpse of that would have forced me to pay absurd sums for shipping. Worst part is the the shipping money will help the KS itself zero. (does that phrase even make sense in english?)

Mighty No. 9 (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mightyno9/mighty-no-9) looks like another game drawing from classic megaman AND Megaman Zero (and XZ). Looking at the team it's probably more accurate to say that it's a spiritual successor of the Megaman Series. This is especially good, since Megaman is more or less death since a few years and I'd already given up the hope to see another title trying to hold up that torch.
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Post by: LobsterSundew on September 03, 2013, 05:58:50 PM
I wanted to let you know that I shared this link with the Indie Megabooth Google Group as many of the companies involved are either in the midst of a KS campaign or considering one in the future, and to say this would be helpful to them would be a vast understatement.

Thanks. It looks like I'm going to have a busy September this year from the messages I'm getting.

@LobsterSundew: A good developer often sadly gets shot down because they are not good at marketing. This will certainly help a lot of people for their future campaigns to come to fruition!

I've been seeing some project creators with a "launch and forget" approach. Sometimes I don't even find a forum spam post for a project, so after the project wastes its first 48 hours it is quickly buried beneath other projects in the rankings and left for dead. Many times the projects themselves had potential.

Kickstarter Canada launches this month, so I expect a flood of new projects. Here are some currently active ones.

Neverending Nightmares (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/infinitap/neverending-nightmares/) is a 2D horror game from the creator of Retro/Grade (http://www.retrogradegame.com/). The project creator has posted a recap about PAX (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/infinitap/neverending-nightmares/posts/588002).

I've been surprised by how Pocket Rumble (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cardboardrobotgames/pocket-rumble-a-new-fighting-game-for-pc-mac-and-l) has only 150 backers so far. Other fighting games that have sought crowdfunding seem to do well because of the how passionate and close knit the fighting game community can be.

If you like comedic road trip through post-zombie outbreak USA to get to Canada then take a look at Death Road to Canada (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1297103658/death-road-to-canada-permadeath-road-trip-simulato).

Octopus City Blues (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ghostinabottle/octopus-city-blues) has a very strong art pixel art style to the surreal city players explore. The homepage (http://ghostinabottle.com/) is also bizarre. I remember the previous game Rainbow Nightmare (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/865595294/rainbow-nightmare-libra/) from this dev.

Mighty No. 9 ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mightyno9/mighty-no-9[/url]) looks like another game drawing from classic megaman AND Megaman Zero (and XZ). Looking at the team it's probably more accurate to say that it's a spiritual successor of the Megaman Series. This is especially good, since Megaman is more or less death since a few years and I'd already given up the hope to see another title trying to hold up that torch.

The Kicktraq data (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/mightyno9/mighty-no-9/#chart-daily) shows very impressive numbers for the backers it is bringing in each day. It is already over 23,000 backers and day #4 is still not over. It is hard to say if it will beat Project Eternity (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity/#chart-daily) as that project had more backers at the start, but wasn't getting such large amounts in daily pledges.
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Post by: Ryan Burrell on September 06, 2013, 10:38:44 AM
I'm curious what you all think of Chromancer (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tsh/chromancer-adaptive-strategy-online-trading-card-g). Their campaign is in tricky territory right now. They exhibited in the MEGABOOTH with us at PAX this last week and seemed like a cool group of guys. I wonder what their campaign needs to give it a boost?
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Post by: LobsterSundew on September 06, 2013, 04:33:39 PM
WayForward (http://www.wayforward.com/) already has over 4,000 backers for their Shantae: Half-Genie Hero (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1236620800/shantae-half-genie-hero). The music (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1236620800/shantae-half-genie-hero/posts/590818) for the pitch video is very catchy from an artist I backed on Kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/755475144/cristina-vees-animated-music-video-studio-appp-jap) before.



I'm curious what you all think of Chromancer ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tsh/chromancer-adaptive-strategy-online-trading-card-g[/url]). Their campaign is in tricky territory right now. They exhibited in the MEGABOOTH with us at PAX this last week and seemed like a cool group of guys. I wonder what their campaign needs to give it a boost?

There is are 296 backers pledging $35,975 (59%) for an average of $121 per backer. The Kicktraq data (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/tsh/chromancer-adaptive-strategy-online-trading-card-g/#chart-daily) shows a trend to 84% with the tendline rising over the last few days due to large pledgers. You are going to hear more about the big pledges throughout this post. The daily numbers of backer charts looks like a wild ride. It launched on a Friday which is not good and ends on a Wednesday which is good. For its main tipping point it needed $18,000 before halfway through the campaign, it kind of did reach that point exactly at the middle but it was so close I am debating whether to say it didn't count. It is in the Video Games category which has brutal competition and has risen to the 17th slot thanks to big pledgers.

Big jumps in pricing from $5 to $15 and from $550 to $1,400. There are only 15 reward tiers which felt short as I usually like to see 20 tiers for a smooth strucutre. The difference in the offerings of the $60 and $65 tiers is confusing at first. From update #7 and a Gamasutra post (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/199608/The_Chromancer_team_has_recently_updated_their_Kickstarterrewards_tiers.php) it seems the structure underwent mid-campaign revisions. It is difficult to do have attractive rewards for Free2Play games and trading card games in general struggle on Kickstarter. The intrinsic rewards, like designing an artifact for a card, could have worked if the rewards were structured better.

Clicking here (http://imgur.com/UzqbzME) links to a graph for the reward tiers. The $25 tier is the most popular. A lot of the contribution of funds are from the two backers at the $6,000 tier which is not good if those pledges were to bounce. Overall the contributions are coming more from the highest priced tiers which I don't like to see to that extreme (21 backers are 68% of the funding). I was not following this campaign after it launched, I hadn't even starred it, but I assume from the pledges per day chart on Kicktraq that some of those biggest pledges were only recently. Update #6 states the campaign was at $12,100 on August 25th. When I look at the "quality" of the backers it is highly varied. There were at least 92 brand new accounts. It looks like the project is depending a lot on backers from outside of Kickstarter regulars.

The project updates are better than average. There is good use of Twitch for the alpha testing that they should probably continue doing.

Then I actually went over the pitch video. The piano and synth music's tone is a strange choice for a fantasy setting subject material. The footage quality was not a problem. The three targets mechanic is an interesting foundation to build a TCG on top of. The art is good, but not wowing (A problem with many other TCG projects). Positioning itself as not a clone of Magic The Gathering was a smart move. Overall the pitch was good enough. The footage of the actual video game, even though it is an early version, does not impress me.

It takes a long time to scroll down the main project page because of huge art images. The official site (http://chromancer.com/) is well organized with a good layout and images.

For promotion I would have focussed on the digital TCG communities, but it appears they already did and those communities are comparing it negatively to Inifity Wars (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elphie/infinity-wars-animated-trading-card-game). It is getting some medium grade media attention so lack of press coverage isn't as serious an issue. There is already a subreddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/chromancer/) established and two posts outside of the subreddit to tcgcollecting (http://www.reddit.com/r/tcgcollecting/comments/1k1q6c/freshlylaunched_kickstarter_for_my_friends/) and digitaltabletop (http://www.reddit.com/r/digitaltabletop/comments/1k1w78/freshlylaunched_kickstarter_for_my_friends/). They should post to /r/kickstarter (http://www.reddit.com/r/kickstarter/) eventually.

The shortlink analytics (http://kck.st/15X2ioT+) shows 69 visitors from Twitter and 46 from Facebook. It may be worth it to continue pushing the game on Twitter.

After all that analysis, I still think it still has a decent chance to get funded with about $20,000 needed in the 11 days left. There is a weekend slowdown and the launch of Kickstarter Canada that could negatively impact its performance in the popularity rankings.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on September 06, 2013, 06:06:37 PM
Does Kicktraq factor in the upwards spikes the occur in the last days/hours?

The art is good, but not wowing (A problem with many other TCG projects). Positioning itself as not a clone of Magic The Gathering was a smart move.

There's an idea people should copy form magic though: Their style guide for artwork.
Like every other big cardgame, MTG used to be plagued by inconsistent depictions and wildly varying designs for the same objects. Then they realized that they had to develop at least some basic guidlines to help make cards more recognizeable.

It just annoys me when creatures that are supposed to draw from the same power/are from the same faction/anything else symbolizing a bond looks vastly different for no reason and could easily be placed on any other card.


All together their ideas look good, but there is no way to guarantee that they will/can keep their promises (especially more details on "reprinting editons"). I'll go and search for some interviews with them to get a better outlook I guess.

 
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on September 06, 2013, 08:03:35 PM
WayForward ([url]http://www.wayforward.com/[/url]) already has over 4,000 backers for their Shantae: Half-Genie Hero ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1236620800/shantae-half-genie-hero[/url]). The music ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1236620800/shantae-half-genie-hero/posts/590818[/url]) for the pitch video is very catchy from an artist I backed on Kickstarter ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/755475144/cristina-vees-animated-music-video-studio-appp-jap[/url]) before.


I love Wayforward, they are da best.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Burrell on September 09, 2013, 10:26:15 AM
[size=78%]After all that analysis, I still think it still has a decent chance to get funded with about $20,000 needed in the 11 days left. There is a weekend slowdown and the launch of Kickstarter Canada that could negatively impact its performance in the popularity rankings.[/size]


Very interesting and impeccably detailed as usual, thanks for your feedback. I met their lead designer at PAX and we chatted for awhile about their campaign. He's extremely passionate about what they're making, specifically how the mechanics work.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on September 12, 2013, 10:00:45 PM
Does Kicktraq factor in the upwards spikes the occur in the last days/hours?

Nope. There is even a post (http://blog.kicktraq.com/why-you-should-take-kicktraq-trends-with-a-grain-of-salt/) about it on their blog. It should be possible to use historical data to make a refined projections, but actually implementing that could be a mountain of work and there is also the cost of mining all that data, storing in and then server time to actually process it.

What I would like to see from Kicktraq is more than just a graph of the net number of backers each day, but also graphs that show each individual tier's progress over time. I can only manually track so many campains to get data like this (http://imgur.com/0WnmYkx).



The quality of projects launching is starting to increase this week.

A visually stunning pixel art action RPG is Hyper Light Drifter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1661802484/hyper-light-drifter).

Taxi Journey (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lexisgames/taxi-journey-an-epic-odyssey) is back for a second attempt.

I've been following the metroidvania Blood Alloy (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/63518568/blood-alloy) after seeing it multiple times on Screenshot Saturdays.

A hardware project related to video games that was doing extremely well today is the Stem System (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/89577853/stem-system-the-best-way-to-interact-with-virtual) that can work with the Oculus Rift (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game). Virtual reality gaming should see a huge boom in 2014 partly thanks to crowdfunding.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Skwiziks on September 12, 2013, 10:15:02 PM
Hyper Light Drifter?

Sword & Sworcery meets Bastion?
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Post by: Quady14 on September 13, 2013, 09:41:22 AM
That's what I thought. Stunning is almost an understatement, I'm keeping my eye on that one. Looks like something I'd really enjoy.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on September 13, 2013, 11:00:04 AM
Hyper Light Drifter?

Sword & Sworcery meets Bastion?

Well, it looks a lot less rigid than Bastion, therefore much, much better!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: VacantPsalm on September 14, 2013, 06:48:06 PM
Found this through Steam Greenlight (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=176185396); it's at Indiegogo but who cares, Adventure OS (http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/adventuros). It uses the files on your hard drive to create the game world. It sounds like a gimmick at first, but then they go into more details about it and it sounds kind of awesome. I advise at least watching the video.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on September 15, 2013, 09:54:00 PM
For those interested, a spiritual successor to Mega Man is up for a kickstarter, already well beyond it's goal unsurprisingly. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mightyno9/mighty-no-9 (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mightyno9/mighty-no-9)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on September 16, 2013, 02:38:59 PM
Backed Mighty No. 9 and Hyper Light Drifter just yesterday. Very excited to see more on both of em!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on September 18, 2013, 01:11:05 AM
Just found out about this project, The Long Dark (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hinterlandgames/the-long-dark-a-first-person-post-disaster-surviva) through an article on some more recent really promising Kickstarters, nothing to go off of gameplay-wise, but they've got a lot of talent within their dev team and the concept itself sounds like something I could really connect with and get engrossed in the world of. I'm not jumping to pledge to them right now, but once there's a little more out there about it I'll definitely have to check it out again. Until then I figured I'd post it up here and see what you guys think of it, at least in terms of the concept itself, since there's not too much to see of the actual game at the moment.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on September 28, 2013, 02:21:09 AM
The horror game Neverending Nightmares (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/infinitap/neverending-nightmares/) is in its last 48 hours. It has $75,428 so far and the backers are trying for one last push to raise the $23,572 needed to make its minimum goal. If you like dramatic last hour pushes then this is the campaign to watch this weekend. This was also the first campaign where I've been tracking the performance of every tier each day for some interesting data (http://imgur.com/NwdRpxg) that can benefit future projects. There are five other campaign's I've started tracking in this way and I'll gradually try to scale up my data collection.

One campaign I'm tracking daily is the Wind Waker inspired open world game Cornerstone (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1206086702/cornerstone-the-song-of-tyrim).

Another is an artistic little game using photographed miniatures for assets called Knite & the Ghost Lights (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2011341880/knite-and-the-ghost-lights). If you liked Armikrog then take a look as the project is not doing as well as it should be.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Stadler on October 03, 2013, 01:32:07 PM
After looking at Cornerstone, I couldn't resist the urge to pledge. The artwork is looking fantastic

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/11ebcfd6f503c64033dd3b47dd77efd6/tumblr_mtana54NOR1r7qbrco4_500.gif)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on October 03, 2013, 05:23:03 PM
The only thing about HLD that makes me grumble is the exclusive ingame content at 75$. I don't care for all these physical rewards, as they are kind of a hassle to get outside of the US.
 
It's a bit similar to DDrop, but they at least had an all digital tier and the promise that the content would not be gated of forever/would make a difference.

 
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Skwiziks on October 03, 2013, 10:25:45 PM
After looking at Cornerstone, I couldn't resist the urge to pledge. The artwork is looking fantastic

([url]http://25.media.tumblr.com/11ebcfd6f503c64033dd3b47dd77efd6/tumblr_mtana54NOR1r7qbrco4_500.gif[/url])

....but that's not Cornerstone.  :P
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on October 04, 2013, 02:10:42 AM
It's not but Cornerstone still looks awesome. Will certainly be looking for it when it comes out.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Stadler on October 05, 2013, 10:46:38 AM
I'll admit it was confusing that HLD artwork was on the Cornerstone page at first, oh well both are looking great and no hesitation in pledging to the 2 of them
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on October 06, 2013, 03:40:22 AM
Neverending Nightmares had a memorable last 48 hours push. It was one of the most enjoyable ones I've experienced on Kickstarter so far. That day had 818 comments on the project.

Clicking here (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90056670/Kickstarter/2013Oct5_Neverending_Nightmares.png) links to with the final data. It's a bit off from the daily numbers for backers in the Kicktraq data (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/infinitap/neverending-nightmares/#chart-daily) because I went by midnight PST instead of EST. I also can't see where the funds that came from backers pledging for add-ons went.

The way the tiers are graphed over time through bar charts is lazy but it serves its purpose. It illustrates changes happening in the growth rates of the tiers after specific events. The bar charts take on a shape like stairs and the steeper the stairs are for a portion of the graph the faster the rate of growth for that portion was. For example, the shape of bar chart for the $10 tier segment grows rapidly with a steep slope and then stops with a flat plateau of no growth after September 4th because it was an early-bird tier with a limited number of slots. The same day the early-bird tier was depleted the $15 pre-order tier then saw its growth really start.

The $15 tier was not the only tier to see a boost when the $10 early-bird tier was full. Many of the medium priced tiers see a small increase in their growth rate the same day the early-bird tier was full. I suspect that backers who would otherwise be drawn to backing medium priced tiers are overpowered by the temptation of saving money with an early-bird slot still present. Another possible explanation is that the Markplier Let's Play video went up a day before and the boost from it might not have been over, but I've seen the effect on other campaigns' graphs when their early-bird rewards filled so I don't think it was that. It is a potential reason to avoid having too many early-bird tier slots. For Neverending Nightmares it felt like it either had just enough slots or could have used a couple hundred more.

I also see pledges at the biggest tiers happening in the first few days and the very last days. Big pledges on the first day often come from family, fans and friends that were waiting for the campaign to launch. Big pledges during the last week can come from people that really want to see goals met. If a campaign has poorly structured rewards then the middle period's lack of big pledgers is likely going to be difficult to get through. The slowdown in the middle of many campaigns is still something I'm having difficulty mitigating. With more data I can perhaps design reward structures that ride out the Kickstarter trough softer by having changes like the additions of new tiers or add-ons already planned ahead of the launch. I'm getting good data from Hyper Light Drifter as they were regularly adding new tiers in the first half of the campaign and I was able to see shifting in the tiers as a result. With Taxi Journey I'm getting even better data (http://imgur.com/kFppcjD) about how not to adjust reward tiers because the campaign gutted its momentum by gambling on a new $10 tier that caused negative growth rates in multiple tiers from backers downgrading their pledges.

Since the lower and medium priced tiers tend to fit to a bell curve shape I can use the bar charts to look for places the rewards structure could be improved. Before the $100 tier and after the main tier, I like to see each tier have half the backers of the tier priced just below it. For Neverending Nightmares the "Backers by tier over time" chart has the $75 tier seen dropped enough that inserting a $60 tier could tap into a bit of funding that can still be gained from existing backers.

The $1 tier of Neverending Nightmares is something important to look at. 7% of the backers in the rewards structure chose it with 257 backers by the end of the campaign. So many backers had picked it that it was even complained about on OUYA Forum (http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?6431-Neverending-Nightmares-FTG/page5). Thoughout the campaign I was occasionally tracking Neverending Nightmare's popularity ranking in the Video Games category and I believe the $1 tier significantly helped keep the campaign from falling down too far in the rankings. Rankings appears to be more about backers per day numbers and less about pledges. The name in the credits reward is being traded for a bit of extra exposure and a little bit of extra funding that I think is very worth it. During the slowest days the $1 tier was a significant percentage of backers for those days so that also made the Kicktraq daily graph look healthier. It was also a pool of backers that can have a percentage upgrade their pledge during the last 48 hours. It is now even harder for me not to recommend having a $1 tier that includes a backer's name in the credits and it is now common in the reward structures I help design.



If you like simulation games such as Prison Architect (http://www.introversion.co.uk/prisonarchitect/) then take a look at Rimworld (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tynansylvester/rimworld). It is about managing a colony of random people like accountants and lawyers who now have to adapt to killing buffalo and repelling raiders. This is an example of a campaign without physical rewards.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Deltius on October 09, 2013, 10:55:02 PM
I went ahead and backed  Hyper Light Drifter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1661802484/hyper-light-drifter) as well.  Looks amazing and really intrigued me!  It's in it's final  63 hour stretch!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Stadler on October 10, 2013, 10:11:43 AM
I went ahead and backed  Hyper Light Drifter ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1661802484/hyper-light-drifter[/url]) as well.  Looks amazing and really intrigued me!  It's in it's final  63 hour stretch!


Awesome! Great to see that project become so successful.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on October 14, 2013, 12:58:31 AM
The Hyper Light Drifter was such an amazing campaign that it was difficult for many small campaigns to compete against it. The campaign ended with $645,158 (2389.5%) and 24,150 backers.  There was a per backer average pledge of $26.71 and the $10 tier on its own had almost 9,000 backers. My graph (http://imgur.com/SN3rEQ7) for Hyper Light Drifter shows the $40 tier performed very well by contributing around 22% of the project's funding and was selected by around 14% of the backers. Another note is that the $10 and $15 tiers contributed almost the same amount in pledges.



There are two action platformers that caught my attention last week. The first is Magicite (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/seanyoung/magicite-a-multiplayer-rpg-platformer) and it has already reached its tiny $1,000 goal. The second one is Legend of the Lancer (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2083751858/legend-of-the-lancer) and it has not been doing well. I like the art for Lancer, but the low framerate to the animations makes the game look like it is lagging in the pitch video. The animated GIFs on the project page look nice and smooth.

An interesting development in the realm of crowdfunding is the Square Enix Collective (http://collective.square-enix.com/) platform with the idea of stricter curation of indie game projects. The role that publisher will have in the process is still not as defined as it could be. It could produce some interesting results if they get the system right.

Another thing to mention is the new Sidekick tool (http://sidekick.epfl.ch/about) that tries to predict which campaigns are likely to make their goals or not. KickSpy (http://www.kickspy.com/) has also been implementing project features about the trendlines for projects. There are common scenarios where Kicktraq (http://www.kicktraq.com/) currently doesn't do a good job with its projections, such as not anticipating the last 48 hour surge, so it might need to make improvements to remain a leading tool project creators use.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on October 14, 2013, 04:17:59 AM
I wish I had more disposable income than I do because I'd back Corner Stone. Really want to see it make it but just don't have the funds to help out.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on October 17, 2013, 01:09:42 PM
The wave of good projects launching in the middle of the month has started for this October.

A first-person phyiscs puzzle game with a good aesthetic and interesting trailer dialogue is called SCALE (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1188957169/scale). This could be an interesting campaign to watch.

One project that stalled on day 1 was a viking side scroller called Valhalla: A Viking's Beard (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/floodentertainment/valhalla-a-vikings-beard) that has only one other backer than myself so far. I see the thumbnail as a major problem for getting people to click, while the game itself has some good personality. I did a Google search looking for any promotion outside of Kickstarter and didn't find any besides Facebook.

Cyan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyan_Worlds), the creators of Myst, are trying to make a new game through Kickstarter with Obduction (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cyaninc/obduction). It is a very weird setup campaign with a pitch video that felt a bit too long. It will likely still make it because there is so much nostalgia to use to get backers.



A post (http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/kickstarter-in-australia-and-new-zealand) on the official Kickstarter blog announced support for project creators in Australia and New Zealand like there is for the UK and Canada. November 13th is the launch day.

RimWorld was greenlit (http://www.indiedb.com/games/rimworld/news/rimworld-greenlit) very fast. The Kicktraq page (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/tynansylvester/rimworld/#chart-daily) shows the campaign has great momentum.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on October 23, 2013, 06:15:52 PM
Both Knite & The Ghost Lights (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2011341880/knite-and-the-ghost-lights) (80.9%) and Cornerstone (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1206086702/cornerstone-the-song-of-tyrim) (79.5%) look like they are going to make it, but they will be relying on the last 48 hours surge.

Onto some recently launched campaigns.

Dropsy (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jaytholen/dropsy) has relaunched. It should reach the 30% tipping point before the day is over. There have been a lot of progress since the last campaign.

Night In The Woods (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1307515311/night-in-the-woods) is another adventure game that has music that reminds me of Gravity Falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_Falls). Overall its has good atmosphere.

Viktor (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1064508483/viktor-action-platformer) is an action sidescroller with a dodge mechanic that functions through solid objects in the environment.

Unsworn (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1215133794/unsworn) is a sci-fi ARPG that has had a slow start.

Confederate Express (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/829559023/confederate-express) is a tactical RPG about a character delivering packages during a zombie outbreak.

It will be interesting to see how difficult getting press coverage for projects will be during the launch of the Xbox One and PS4.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Skwiziks on October 23, 2013, 09:50:00 PM
Has "The Mandate" been brought up yet?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1964463742/the-mandate (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1964463742/the-mandate)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on October 24, 2013, 06:11:59 AM
It will be interesting to see how difficult getting press coverage for projects will be during the launch of the Xbox One and PS4.

I wouldn't attempt as risky campaign during that time.
By logic, kickstarter campaigns during christmas won't be very successful as well.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on October 30, 2013, 01:48:25 AM
Has "The Mandate" been brought up yet?

[url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1964463742/the-mandate[/url] ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1964463742/the-mandate[/url])

I don't see it mentioned here before. The 3D space battles do show off a good style to them and it is great that there was a bits like infantry combat to show in the pitch. There are some well done parts to the campaign, like the strong concept art and the ship designer demo, but from the start it didn't look like a viable campaign with that $500,000 goal. The current average is $42.75 per backer and it would take about 7,251 more backers to reach its goal even if it could maintain that high average. The Kicktraq data (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1964463742/the-mandate/) has it still getting solid numbers of new backers each day. It does have a 60 day long campaign, so something could happen between now and its last 48 hours to give it enough of a boost to potentially get funded.

By logic, kickstarter campaigns during christmas won't be very successful as well.

The months of December and June each year seem to be poor performers ever since I began following Kickstarter in 2011. September 2012 was bad because of all the UK-based projects launching at the same time.



A recent campaign launch is The Girl and the Robot (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2039811773/the-girl-and-the-robot) is a 3D action adventure. I'm reminded of Castle in the Sky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_in_the_Sky) when I see it. It has good art direction and if it gets some more robust puzzles there is a lot of potential. The combat looks good, but I don't know how it actually feels.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on October 30, 2013, 10:06:29 AM
Really glad to see Cornerstone make it, the demo was a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on October 30, 2013, 12:45:01 PM
Really glad to see Cornerstone make it, the demo was a lot of fun.


Forgot to back that, damn....


@Lobster: I blame you for not telling us about Project Phoenix (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1300298569/project-phoenix-japans-indie-rpg-feat-aaa-talent)! This really looks like a good game.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on October 30, 2013, 04:20:41 PM
The shape of the data for Cornerstone (http://imgur.com/rD00LFs) was similar in many ways to that of the data for Neverending Nightmares (http://imgur.com/MuN9gDy), although Neverending Nightmares had a much larger surge at the end. If this pattern continues it will make simulating campaigns easier, but I really need to find some more ways to innovate with reward structures as seeking out an optimum structure for profit margins just leads to massproduced reward structures that just have the name of the game swapped in and that could get boring.

@Lobster: I blame you for not telling us about Project Phoenix ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1300298569/project-phoenix-japans-indie-rpg-feat-aaa-talent[/url])! This really looks like a good game.

There were many parts of that campaign I disliked so I didn't promote it. The pitch video really unimpressed me with its first 2 minutes as I see similar from junk campaigns. I see hundreds of poorly setup campaigns per year by going over every video game project that launches. They are often too vague and make promises like AAA quality. Project Phoenix felts like a bad presentation to me. There was the "In game battle concept of Project Phoenix" mockup screenshot and not much else early on. I see more gameplay explanations were added after the launch. The rewards were structured fine. If famous talent had not been attached it I don't think it would have been funded.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on October 30, 2013, 05:03:31 PM
I know DDrop had the same problem, but I'm getting rather, excuse my language here, pissed off by exclusive ingame items by now.

I drew back from Hyper Light Drifter because they had like 70$ for an alternative character. They later added explaination that it would be added later, but at the same time another exclusive was announced.

It's really disencouraging customers when major elements are not ingame because you came to late or didn't want to pay 300% or the game's price upfront.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on October 30, 2013, 05:06:12 PM
If it makes you feel any better (I doubt it does) I have told a few other developers who have asked us for advice to avoid in-game content rewards.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on October 30, 2013, 06:26:43 PM
If it makes you feel any better (I doubt it does) I have told a few other developers who have asked us for advice to avoid in-game content rewards.

That's a pretty good thing to do, especially since the rewards are done so early that it's easy to make mistakes.

Maybe I'm just getting too worked up and need to exercise more self restrain...

PS: It's admirable how you opt for sharing your newfound knowledge with others.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on October 30, 2013, 06:52:40 PM
Doesn't happen much anymore, as I suspect we are kind of old news in the Kickstarter world. For a few months after our campaign though, we were inundated with requests for advice, reviewing KS pages, etc. Most of the folks who got in touch seemed to be capable and passionate devs, so dispensing any of the little wisdom we may have was a no brainer. There were a couple of...suspect cases, but such is the world.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Deltius on October 30, 2013, 10:52:49 PM
Not sure if any of y'all are into comics/graphic novels but I came across RUIN (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/darkersho/r-u-i-n)  via Kickstarter and it really caught my attention!  Looks to have a pretty interesting story/setting and I'm loving the art for it.  I recommend checking it out!   
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on October 31, 2013, 03:00:06 PM
As long as they have digital versions, I'm all for visual novels. I saw Ruin some time ago, but somehow I can't get comfortable with this weird as punk hairstyle. It just looks like apocalypse hipster. The gated off updates don't help either...

The rest, however, looks promising.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on November 02, 2013, 11:11:01 PM
Kickstarter-exclusive digital content could require a log-in system which then could prevent the game from being truly DRM-free or the controversial topic of DLC. I've had a game release a file to be dragged into the install folder to unlock the Kickstarter skin. Sometimes it is a cheatcode the creators asks to not have shared outside of the backers of the game. There could also be instructions for how to access a hidden area. I do think Kickstarter-exclusive content can be a good thing, especially for MMOs, but I like to see at least some of it included at the main pre-order tier instead of high priced ones.

Doesn't happen much anymore, as I suspect we are kind of old news in the Kickstarter world. For a few months after our campaign though, we were inundated with requests for advice, reviewing KS pages, etc. Most of the folks who got in touch seemed to be capable and passionate devs, so dispensing any of the little wisdom we may have was a no brainer. There were a couple of...suspect cases, but such is the world.

Delver's Drop was one of the big campaigns when it ran and people often want to try to emulate success. Projects like Hyper Light Drifter should now stand out more recently in the memories of project creators scrambling to get ready to launch. Delver's Drop being at PAX also likely contributed to people coming to you for advice. On a side note, it is also common for the forums of kickstarted games to eventually slow down until the game launches. It can be easy to wander off to the forums of a newer kickstarted game. When the game launches then backers flood back in, but sometimes the forums become empty again and other times they thrive after. I think it depends on how many backers there are to keep the forums interesting.



Paradise Lost: First Contact (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1183462809/paradise-lost-first-contact) is a stealth game where you control an alien plant-like lifeform.

There is a project for The 7th Guest 3: The Collector (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1559170459/the-7th-guest-3-the-collector). The original game was one of the first CD-ROM distributed games and had full motion video.

A countdown has started for the Monday launch of STASIS (http://www.stasisgame.com/). That could become one of the big campaigns for November. The execution of the isometric graphics is very interesting.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on November 12, 2013, 10:36:37 AM
I really like the visuals of Paradise Lost: First Contact. Delicious pixels. STASIS looks really polished and professionally executed. I haven't been able to get into a point and click adventure in quite a while, but I'd probably give this one a shot.


Figured I would post Catacomb Kids (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fourbitfriday/catacomb-kids-a-very-roguelike-platformer) since there are a lot of rogue-like (and rogue-like-like) fans around here.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on November 14, 2013, 12:23:53 AM
If you liked Don't Starve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Starve) then maybe take a look at Dyscourse (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlchemylabs/dyscourse-survivors-choose-wisely) as it is an interesting project that feels similar. I like how it used its two $15 tiers (http://imgur.com/FW1r18U).

Interstellaria (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coldricegames/interstellaria) is a sci-fi sandbox space game in addition to a platformer when visiting the surface of worlds.

Sprite Lamp (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/finnmorgan/sprite-lamp-dynamic-lighting-for-2d-art) is a tool for making normal maps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_mapping) for game sprites.

There haven't been many other projects that have launched this month that caught my attention.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on November 24, 2013, 03:00:57 PM
Dropsy (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jaytholen/dropsy) was recently picked up by the publisher of Hotline Miami (http://hotlinemiami.com/). Devolver Digital has said it will assist with QA, marketing and localization (http://www.devolverdigital.com/blog/view/devolver-digital-and-dropsy-to-conquer-your-fear-of).

Scraps (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nition/scraps-customisable-vehicle-combat-for-windows-mac) is a physics-based car combat and construction game that looks fun but has been going unnoticed.

LISA the painful RPG (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/131274701/lisa-the-painful-rpg) is a 2D survival game set in a wasteland without women ruled by bizarre characters. It feels like a darker Earthbound.

Tiny Trek (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2064021040/tiny-trek) is a small space game with a very retro colour palette. It looks like it was made for a more powerful Atari 2600.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on November 24, 2013, 03:23:17 PM
Dropsy looks terrifyingly trippy. That theme in the trailer is eerie as all hell!

I remember playing LISA on RPG Maker, where you actually played as Lisa, and the main character of this new iteration was the recurring antagonist... Kind of interesting that it's being expanded on... It was a pretty uncomfortable game though, I'll say that much. I don't know that I'm gonna follow it, but they've certainly got a flair for the bizarre, I have to give them that much.

Thanks again for this thread Lobster, it has enlightened me to both strange and fantastical things XD
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on November 26, 2013, 01:50:20 PM
The Catacomb Kids dev released a short but really interesting gameplay video that I thought might pique the interests of some of you all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N59tLIvQeJE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N59tLIvQeJE)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on November 26, 2013, 03:32:57 PM
The Catacomb Kids dev released a short but really interesting gameplay video that I thought might pique the interests of some of you all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N59tLIvQeJE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N59tLIvQeJE)

Really cool video and interesting game. Thanks for continuing to highlight it Coby!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on November 26, 2013, 04:51:54 PM
Damn, never before have I seen a game with so many uses for a simple rock! I like this guy's ideas on design, so intricate! If he puts the same care into every item in the game and how the interact with one another Catacomb Kids is gonna be one hell of a blast to play XD
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on November 28, 2013, 01:25:59 AM
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1481457176/king-voxel (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1481457176/king-voxel)

Just got a message about this game on Youtube. Looking at the Kickstarter video, it's... Maybe a little shoddy with the corny sound effects and obvious green screen, but I feel like the game itself is at least somewhat noteworthy with some decent voxel art, (the animation on some of bosses is pretty nice) world generation and character customization systems.

The character creator actually reminds me a lot of the Shadowbox function in ZBrush, I thought it was a clever approach to customizing voxel art myself. Comparing it to the character creator in 3D Dot Game Heroes, both have their ups and downs in the selection methods they used, and I might prefer 3D Dot Game Heroes' system slightly, but nonetheless it's neat that he was able to implement all of this.

Of course, with only 6 days left and 18,538 dollars left to raise, I think this one might be dead in the water already. Still, I wouldn't say it looks bad at all, just not marketed well enough and maybe shooting for too high a funding value. It's kind of hard to market in the first place given its similarities to so many other games; too similar at base, with not enough to set it apart perhaps. It also doesn't help that some of the descriptions of things on the Kickstarter page sound like it's addressing a younger audience, when I don't imagine Kickstarter being too highly populated with kids, "Voxelot is infested with all sorts of monsters!  Drillshells drill up out of the ground below your feet.  Lions get mad and charge if they see you.  Wizards warp to different locations.  Ghosts can become invisible.  Roaches need to be stepped on.  Madusa can turn you into stone in the middle of battle!  Devils 'n dragons are just mean!" It's just hard to take seriously. Ah well, any impressions from you guys? I just see it as a bit of a bummer for the guy. I wish him better luck next time at the very least!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Knight Pattern on November 28, 2013, 01:28:42 AM
Huuuuu that Catacomb Kids video sort of sold me on the product (not enough to back on kickstarter but enough to purchase sometime after release).

Not really digging the visuals still though. Also best be a way to rob/murder the shopkeepers, etc.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on December 06, 2013, 10:44:20 PM
Thanks again for this thread Lobster, it has enlightened me to both strange and fantastical things XD

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Festival of Magic (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/171497873/festival-of-magic) is a 3D RPG that is well made, but $250,000 is a large goal for this time of year. I currently only see three active projects (Stasis, Deathfire and The 7th Guest 3) that have surpassed the $100,000 mark and all of those are ending soon.

There is a N64-inspired 3D platforming collect-a-thon game called Lobodestroyo (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lefthanded/lobodestroyo-3d-action-platformer-game). It has 4 days to raise $10,593.

Sewer Rats (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/133786429/sewer-rats) is a campaign with only 3 backers so far. I like the 1930s-inspired style to the 3D models.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on December 07, 2013, 12:11:01 AM
Sewer Rats' visual style and concept look and sound fantastic. I'm really surprised at the lack of support on this one. Not marketed well enough I suppose? I really hope things turn around for them, or they find an alternative route to release their game, because I'd really like to see where they go with it.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on December 15, 2013, 03:52:56 AM
A lot of campaigns I would label as "lower quality" have been popping up like crazy over the last few weeks. I speculate that many people decided to launch a campaign when their college semester ended or vacations from work  began.

A common piece of Kickstarter advice has been to run a Kickstarter campaign for exactly 30 days. I now see that it is worth it to extend beyond that by 5 days or less if it better repositions the last 48 hours. That often means extending to end on a Sunday night so social media and blog coverage can more effectively use a weekend for the "save this campaign" posts instead of a weekday. December is so slow, that I think that the 30 day rule might even need an exception for so late in the year. The disadvantage of longer campaigns are often that it is harder to properly maintain momentum, but the Christmas season wrecks the momentum anyways. The idea is that because December is not an optimum time to run a campaign, campaigns get longer so that they can slow burn until they end in January when things are hopefully better.



Long Night (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1102758921/long-night) only has 34 backers so far. It is a 3D survival horror game with a demo.

Project Nimbus (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kissltd/project-nimbus) is a mecha combat game. I like the style of its presentation, but the rewards structure is a bit strange with a range of just £1 to £25.

Fight The Dragon (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/740762193/fight-the-dragon-a-mini-action-rpg-construction-ki) is a hack and slash with a dungeon constructing feature.

War of Omens (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1564141972/war-of-omens-a-digital-deck-builder-ccg-hybrid) is a digital CCG that is not a Magic The Gathering clone. It was inspired by Dominion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_(card_game)). This and Hearthstone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearthstone:_Heroes_of_Warcraft) are the two CCGs I hope to play in 2014.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhP52eEK9mQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhP52eEK9mQ)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on December 15, 2013, 01:56:47 PM
Yeah, going back to Sewer Rats it still only has 7 backers and 122 dollars out of their goal of 28k with 15 days left. Seems pretty dead in the water at this point :(

Project Nimbus looks pretty promising too, very Armored Core-esque. Fight the Dragon's got a pretty engaging combat system as dungeon crawlers go, and the dungeon editor system looks pretty robust.

I dunno, maybe they aren't top quality, but I think they've all got their own sense of charm to em. Like you said though, the holidays are probably just not a great time to start big crowdfunding campaigns like this when many people are spending money on present shopping already.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on December 15, 2013, 06:49:59 PM
Project Nimbus does look really cool but ya...that's a really weird set up. Not only a limited number of Alpha builds to give away but only up to 25 dollars as a max pledge and a set target of 6K.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on December 15, 2013, 10:16:52 PM
I guess they're hoping people will pledge over the max reward level out of support of the project? Maybe so everybody up to 25 dollars feels equally rewarded and there aren't weird exclusive rewards way high up on the list? But I don't know if that's an effective way to format things. A Night in the Woods found a really nice balance, putting out a limited amount of stretch goals that they didn't overstep their boundaries on, they offered some unique rewards for higher pledges, it just seemed pretty well done overall to me. I guess maybe the Project Nimbus devs were looking in the wrong place to limit when it came to pledges and funding amounts. Hopefully it won't bite them in the butt come the end of their campaign.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Zillie on January 15, 2014, 03:33:06 PM
Coby just showed me this one. I'm sooooo freakin stoked about it.


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rain-world/project-rain-world (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rain-world/project-rain-world)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on January 15, 2014, 03:42:18 PM
Coby just showed me this one. I'm sooooo freakin stoked about it.


[url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rain-world/project-rain-world[/url] ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rain-world/project-rain-world[/url])


That is so adorable. I sorta want a slugcat.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on January 15, 2014, 04:18:19 PM
That's fantastic, I'll have to keep an eye on that one, looks like it's got some pretty intense chase sections to it. I like this a lot :D
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on January 16, 2014, 08:36:33 PM
Interestingly, a lot of projects I have backed decided January was the time to break their silence and give project updates. With this week it feels like Kickstarter is getting busy again after the December slowdown. There wasn't many video game campaigns worth noting until this week. The first two projects I backed for 2014 were the film projects Kung Fury (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kungfury/kung-fury) and Warriors of Kitri (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/805175490/warriors-of-kitri-animated-film).

Project Rain World is currently grabbing a lot of attention. It has great art.

Olympia Rising (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paleozoic/olympia-rising) is a 2D action adventure game with a demo. There is a lot I think this small project page did right with its presentation.

Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen) is from game designer Brad McQuaid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_McQuaid). The project's presentation could have been more refined.

Unsung Story: Tale of the Guardians (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/482445197/unsung-story-tale-of-the-guardians) is a tactics RPG with people Final Fantasy Tactics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Tactics) involved. It too is a project with the names of famous game developers attached, but is lacking in information about the game itself.

Wayward Terran Frontier (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1084206971/wayward-terran-frontier) is a spacegame with a long 13 minute pitch. I did really like the use of animated GIFs on the project page.

Algo-Bot (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fishingcactus/algo-bot-code-smarter-not-harder) is a puzzle game with robots that has some good personality to its pitch video.

LEVEL (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/drmikey/level-a-unique-puzzle-platforming-side-scroller) is another puzzle game with robots.

Big news was that The Banner Saga (http://kotaku.com/the-banner-saga-isnt-just-a-pretty-face-1500844642) and Broken Age (http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/13/5305556/broken-age-release-steam-early-access) have their first parts now released to backers.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on January 26, 2014, 12:27:57 AM
An RPG developed with Cryengine called Kingdom Come: Deliverance (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance) is approaching £450,000 in pledges and 15,000 backers.

Cradle (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1324765189/cradle) is also using Cryengine.

La-mulana 2 (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/playism/la-mulana-2) is a sequel to a 2005 game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La-Mulana) from Japan.

To The Death (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/scarymostro/to-the-death) is a beat'en up that looks fun, but a $400,000 goal looks difficult for the campaign.

Savage: The Shard of Gosen (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/561467528/savage-the-shard-of-gosen) is a small campaign for a platformer RPG like Volgarr (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1829034266/volgarr-the-viking).

With February approaching there should be a lot of new campaigns getting ready. I've started a new Imgur album (http://imgur.com/a/UY8PH) for 2014. I wanted to have an updated Kickstarter guide ready this month to explain how to both track and interpret the bar charts, but illness and college have delayed it.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Knight Pattern on February 02, 2014, 12:29:06 AM
Super pumped for La Mulana 2, the first game is so, so good. The pitch video referencing how some people refer to it as the Dark Souls of Metroidvania got a chuckle out of me (mainly cause most of La Mulana's challenge comes from the puzzles and not the combat).

I back very few kickstarters but LM2 is a game I have the upmost faith in.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on February 10, 2014, 02:41:36 PM
When I saw the first promos for Darkest Dungeon a few months back, I really liked it. I was fortunate to have a chance to briefly play an early build and it definitely has a ton of potential and is very well put together. They just went up on Kickstarter  (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460250988/darkest-dungeon-by-red-hook-studios) and it looks like they are going to destroy their goal.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on February 10, 2014, 02:52:32 PM
Took a look from your tweet, game looks awesome as hell. Will be keeping my eye on it but sadly don't have the cash to donate.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on February 10, 2014, 03:38:45 PM
On February 4th there was some changes made to Kickstarter itself again. Users can now easily see their active pledges for campaigns that aren't yet ended.

I was waiting for Darkest Dungeon to launch since seeing it on Prefundia (http://prefundia.com/projects/view/darkest-dungeon-by-red-hook-studios/702/). There are many parts of the campaign that look excellently well done.

Classroom Aquatic (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2094628033/classroom-aquatic) is an interesting premise for an Oculus Rift game where you have to take a test with dolphins. I liked the personality of the game's presentation.

39 Days to Mars (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/philipbuchanan/39-days-to-mars) is a two player co-op adventure game set in a steampunk universe. A copy of the game is at the $2 reward which isn't too inefficient when the goal is a relatively low $1,000 NZD.

Catapult for Hire (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tyronehenrie/catapult-for-hire) is a 3D puzzle game where you utilize a teleporting catapult and a variety of payloads to navigate levels. The gameplay example in the last half of the pitch is more impressive than the actual trailer.

Nevermind (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/reynoldsphobia/nevermind-a-biofeedback-horror-adventure-game) is a first-person horror game with the option to use a heart-rate sensor to influence in game events.

FRAMED (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1257999391/framed-indie-aaa-action-shooter) looks like an indie Heavy Rain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Rain). The rewards do not make sense to me from multiple perspectives such as what should be the main reward tier limited to 5,000 slots so it can only contribute a third of the minimum goal.

A combination of being sick and college has forced me to take a break from helping to run campaigns. With the Sochi Olympics right now I don't know how good a time it would be to run a campaign.

A Minecraft film (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/878782324/birth-of-man-a-minecraft-feature-film) has been cancelled after raising $63,980. Notch tweeted (https://twitter.com/notch/status/431795020082216960) that the project creator had not made a deal with them in advance of the launch.

A unique Kickstarter is to buy a burrito (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1613730240/graphing-the-deliciousness-of-a-chicken-burrito). It is campaigns like this that test the interpretations of Kickstarter's guidelines. It has a $8 goal and it is at $171 right now.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on February 10, 2014, 06:44:12 PM
And I have another one! This one just went live, literally, 5 minutes ago :D


Hive Jump by Graphite Lab (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/graphitelab/hive-jump?ref=pixelscopic)


Graphite Lab is a small studio up in St. Louis (about 3 hours from us) that we've done some work with in the past. Their studio director, Matt Raithel, was also mine and Baker's boss many many moons ago when we were doing handheld work on the GBA and DS. Raithel's a good guy and has a nice group put together at his studio, so if you guys are looking for some multi-player shooter action, perhaps you will dig HJ.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on February 10, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
And I have another one! This one just went live, literally, 5 minutes ago :D


Hive Jump by Graphite Lab (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/graphitelab/hive-jump?ref=pixelscopic)


Graphite Lab is a small studio up in St. Louis (about 3 hours from us) that we've done some work with in the past. Their studio director, Matt Raithel, was also mine and Baker's boss many many moons ago when we were doing handheld work on the GBA and DS. Raithel's a good guy and has a nice group put together at his studio, so if you guys are looking for some multi-player shooter action, perhaps you will dig HJ.

Another really awesome looking one Coby, love me some Multi-Player games. I'll check this one out for sure.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on February 13, 2014, 10:18:36 PM
It looks like Darkest Dungeon is getting some of the same flak that Delver's did...  The exclusive class.

I might drop in for $15 just to get the game, but I don't know about $49 just for another class.  I dropped $60 for Delver's just to get the exclusive class, and looking back I'm not sure if I want to continue following that path.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on February 14, 2014, 12:25:41 AM
Yep, they are getting serious flack over that, almost exactly like we did. The only difference being that they are leaving it as is and we made the concession to implement the sharing system. Had I the fortune to have seen their KS preview, I would have vehemently told them to avoid the exclusive character. I believe Hyper Light Drifter also had that problem, and then late in the campaign made it available as a pack on kind of thing.


I'm pretty sure we were not the first indie team to put a exclusive class in a KS, but I really hope we didn't influence these later KSs that did as well. Most of the flak we received died and is buried on the KS pages so unless you read every single comment from the beginning of time, you'd probably never know that it was a big issue.


And I don't blame you for not wanting to fork out the extra cash - and I also thank you greatly for your support :)


Speaking of exclusive classes and what not, we have internally finalized the sharing system. It's going to be awesome and I think it may be the first of its kind. I'm pretty sure everyone will be pleased.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on February 15, 2014, 12:01:02 AM
I'll include the advice to be careful about exclusive content in my updated guide.

Galactic Princess (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/19027642/galactic-princess) is a 2D pixel art game where you captain a smuggler ship and engage in combat with other ships.

Heart&Slash (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1597522957/heartandslash) is a 3D brawler with a focus on weapons.

I actually had trouble to get onto Kickstarter today due to an error message. The status page (http://status.kickstarter.com/) says "Investigating" for February 14th.

About Hive Jump.

The graph looks like a campaign that isn't at full speed yet. There is not many days of data. It is after the first week that the trough period begins.
http://imgur.com/MEk009c (http://imgur.com/MEk009c)

Their thumbnail is great. The pitch video is efficient at the start and while it is slow in the middle it still has good content. The constant gunfire popping sound effect feels good. Skimming over the project page I saw no fatal flaws. The developer is showing enough communication with backers.

February 13th was when the project shortlink starting seeing better numbers for being shared. Twitter is the dominant contributor of click.
http://kck.st/MGqqEp+ (http://kck.st/MGqqEp+) (The URL doesn't like to be properly parsed here for some reason)

Hive Jump needs to do more promotion like posting to Screenshot Saturday (http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/search?q=flair%3ASSS&sort=new&restrict_sr=on). I only see two related Reddit posts 1 (http://www.reddit.com/r/2DGaming/comments/1xwjtm/hive_jump_kickstarter/) 2 (http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1xpdzq/hive_jump_kickstarter_cooperative_multiplayer/), but those were not in subreddits I would go to lfirst like /r/kickstarter. Even mentioning Kickstarter in the title will get a post downvotes in /r/gaming and /r/2Dgaming only has 110 subscribers. There is list of gaming subreddits (http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/wiki/faq).

There was an IndieGames.com mention (http://indiegames.com/2014/02/hive_jump_kickstarter.html) and a few other blog posts but nothing huge yet for coverage. It was good to see that there was some day 1 coverage. A blogger posted a critique (http://cliqist.com/2014/02/13/editorial-whats-wrong-with-hive-jump/). I agree on the point of the Twitter being new. I'd rather see a campaign with a goal too high than too low and a console version is an increase in scope. The timing of the campaign is good, but there is just the problem of a few giant campaigns right now like Unsung soaking up attention.

If the game is as playable as it looks, then there is the opportunity to send the alpha to high profile Let's Players that record in groups like the guys at Steam Train (http://gamegrumps.wikia.com/wiki/Steam_Train). By using Sprite Lamp, they could also try to get some support from that community. Linux support often means Linux gamers will be adding it to wiki lists and Linux gaming bloggers mentioning it eventually.

A good practice is to track the number of views they are getting for their pitch video.

If they can get to 500 backers their chances go up, so that could be a short term goal to focus on. They are 17th in popularity for the active Video Game projects which is not bad. At their current momentum I don't expect them to make it over 70%. The Kicktraq trend is less than 30%. Next Monday I would expect to see an increase in momentum because some big campaigns will be over. The per backer average pledge is $31.17 that is a bit high. It looks like they will need to aim for over 2,000 backers overall to reach their goal. If they can do well in the Kickstarter trough they could make it, but that will need more exposure.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on February 16, 2014, 04:21:50 PM
Oooh Heart&Slash looks really nicely done. I think I've seen that game somewhere before...I wonder if its from TIGSource. I'm usually not a big fan of 3D hack and slash / action adventure games, but I really like what they have put together so far.


I shall have to read a bit more about Galactic Princess. Just skimming the page and looking at images it seems very much in the FTL realm, which isn't a "genre" that I gets my excitement bones exciting, but the art style is pretty cool and intrigues me.


Thanks for the well thought analysis of HJ - I appreciate you taking the time to divulge your thoughts on it. They are having a pretty tough go of it right now, and although they are really cranking away on more (and more interesting) updates and stuff, I wonder if the lack of initial momentum is going to cripple them.


I assume every one already knows this, but KS had a security breach last week and asked everyone to reset their passwords. So if you haven't done that, you might want to.




Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on February 16, 2014, 04:34:34 PM
Heart & Slash looks right up my alley... I may have to back it, it's too sexy to pass up!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Juan Raigada on February 17, 2014, 01:04:30 PM
Oooh Heart&Slash looks really nicely done. I think I've seen that game somewhere before...I wonder if its from TIGSource. I'm usually not a big fan of 3D hack and slash / action adventure games, but I really like what they have put together so far.

Yes, I started the TIGSource Devlog a long while ago!

Anyways, we got one backer from here, so I thought I'd just come by and say thanks!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on February 17, 2014, 07:26:42 PM
Hey Juan, thanks for coming by the forums and now you have at least 2 backers from here :D


Just an FYI: on the Kickstarter page searching for "Heart and Slash" returned no results, which confused me. I realize the ampersand is part of the title, but if you can include "Heart, "and", "Slash" in your meta search terms, it might be a good idea? I'm not even sure you can do that on a KS page, but its food for thought. Good luck with your campaign!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on February 20, 2014, 11:50:20 AM
Yep, they are getting serious flack over that, almost exactly like we did. The only difference being that they are leaving it as is and we made the concession to implement the sharing system.

Delver's Drop has actually been brought up in conversation several times as a "Way to fix the exclusive class problem," but it doesn't look like Red Hook is going to follow in your footsteps. 
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on February 23, 2014, 03:22:22 AM
The error messages I mentioned in my previous post were likely related to the security breach incident.

How easy a project's title is to search is something that project creators should think about.

I noticed the general quality of campaigns has been really low this month. There haven't been many to post about here. There is Shrug Island (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iggynore/shrug-island) that is a warm coloured adventure game still sitting with less than 50 backers. The pitch for Treachery in Beatdown City (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nuchallenger/treachery-in-beatdown-city-a-tactical-beat-em-up) has a catchy song at 00:25.

An interesting campaign is The Mini Museum (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2054592112/mini-museum) because it can be used as an example for how to do many many small things right. It tells an interesting story, it creates a sense of scarcity for the rewards, the video is well filmed, it builds up confidence in the skills of the project creator and rewards are attractive.

Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen) raised $460,657 but didn't make its $800,000 goal. I've been looking at how weird their graph (http://imgur.com/QrWzzn6) turned out (There is the error of the $250 tier swapped so ignore that). The $10,000 tier looks like money from friends. The backer distribution is way too far towards the heavy end. It is another case of a well known game designer immediately trying to reboot somewhere else after the first attempt fails. In many ways I see that as a horrible idea. Rebooting immediately burns the backers out and often doesn't leave time for feedback and changes go not made. With past examples it also looks like a large portion of backers don't follow them to the new campaign because it gains the disadvantages of a flexible funding style campaign.

The graph for Heart&Slash (http://imgur.com/LnzMYB8) shows it is steadily growing and it is already close to its goal. I found out about Kicktops.com (http://kicktops.com/) for the first time after the project page was updated.

I wonder if indie game devs will now have a new gameplay genre to work with due to the experiment that is Twitch Plays Pokemon (http://www.reddit.com/r/twitchplayspokemon/). They could make turn-based games with the same formula of thousands of people doing inputs to control one protagonist, but potentially a lot less resources/latency because it would be user clients being updated with the game state and recent moves instead of distributing a video stream and having to parse a laggy chatroom. There could be a lot of clones trying to get crowdfunded.

It is a weird feeling not helping run a campaign this month. It is like sitting around on the couch while knowing one should be doing the dishes. To fight the pseudo-withdrawal symptoms, here is more about Hive Jump with an updated graph.
http://imgur.com/B1pIDsc (http://imgur.com/B1pIDsc)

That new $30 tier looks like it did a good job and at least one existing backer upgraded to it and then it became the dominant choice over the old version. The $100 and higher priced reward tiers have ceased growing. While the growth spike in pledges on February 14th looks good on Kicktraq, it doesn't look as good when it is seen on my graph that it was from the $200, $300 and $500 tiers that haven't done anything since. Good news is that the tiers ranging from $10 to $30 keep growing. If those tiers stop growing then the campaign has stalled.

Considering the $15 tier is not doing well because there is still $10 early-bird slots open, the distribution looks good and boring. There is the second normal curve that begins around the $100 tier which is another common thing to see. It continues to look like a campaign that is lacking exposure and not a problem with something like the rewards.

Hive Jump's popularity for the category has dropped to 20th. Some of its backers are sharing the link on forums. I like the pretty screenshots being posted on their Twitter. Their online presence is a bit stronger now, but not where it needs to be. I saw their Eight And A Half Bit Elevator Pitch episode in my subscription box. I see they posted to Screenshot Saturday 159 (http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1yl2nw/screenshot_saturday_159_day_after_friday_edition/cfm1rfk). There hasn't been much else new related to them on Reddit besides two other posts. I'm wondering where most of the Facebook likes came from. The shortlink being shared has plummeted since a February 17th spike. Twitter continues to be the best performer. Project updates continue to be better than I expected.

Momentum continues to be the big problem with Kicktraq now showing a 17% trend. The top 4 most popular active video game projects seem to be soaking up most of the current pledges. Darkest Dungeon continues to be the current superstar and it like competing against another Hyper Light Drifter. They currently have 198 backers pledging $5375 for an average of $27.15 per backer. That is within the $25 to $30 range I like to see for a video game project that I'm treating as a being in the $10 class. When I compensate out the large backers from February 14th the average drops to $22.44 per backer. At that new average they would be looking at an simple pessimistic target of 3,000 backers to reach 100%. It still looks like they will need about 2,000 to 2,500 backers overall to reach their goal. The quality of the backers is high with many people that have backed tens of other campaigns. 13 of the backers are brand new accounts with the defualt blue squares image. I frequently see campaigns speed up after 500 backers, so that is what I would recommend again to be a short term goal. If they can get 500 backers with the current campaign and then come back with a reboot, they might get funded. I'd suggest having a demo ready before relaunching. While not impossible to get funded this time, there is just such a big momentum gap to try to fill.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on February 27, 2014, 04:31:39 AM
Hive Jump has its $10 to $30 reward tiers stalling. That is not good. I had gone to see the Kicktraq page (https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/graphitelab/hive-jump/#chart-daily) thinking there might be an error with my spreadsheet but there wasn't as it turns out there were no net backers for February 26th. All I found for recent mentions of the campaign was episode 5 of The Gamers Lounge (http://www.the-gamers-lounge.com/john-meadows/2014/2/25/the-gamers-lounge-podcast-ep-5-the-one-about-hive-jump) podcast and a forum post made by one of the podcast's members. What is strange is that the campaign shows up as ranked 5th in "Sorted By Magic" and ranked 25th in popularity for the category.

Koe (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/297265509/koe-a-jrpg-with-japanese-at-the-core-of-gameplay) is a charming JRPG for learning Japanese. It is good to see it gained some traction because I wasn't sure it was wondering if it would do well or not when I saw it new.

Gunscape (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1786613985/gunscape) is a Quake-like FPS with map construction.

Depth Test (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/121288485/depth-test) is a submarine constructor similar to the spaceship constructor games that are coming out.

Darkblood Chronicles (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2123876660/darkblood-chronicles) is a JRPG-style game with some interesting pixel art.

Playing History - Vikings (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/playinghistory/playing-history-vikings) reminds me of Cornerstone: The Song of Tyrim (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1206086702/cornerstone-the-song-of-tyrim).

Classroom Aquatic (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2094628033/classroom-aquatic) has been putting effort into trying to save the campaign. It has less than a week to cover a $10,000 gap. It could be a close finish.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on March 03, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
Hive Jump cancelled itself. Below is a link to the updated graph. Comments were made that they want to reboot.
http://imgur.com/cLt31QN (http://imgur.com/cLt31QN)

If you like pipe organ music and pixel art then Spirit (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/holdenboyles/spirit) is an interesting little indie game. It is not easy for me to describe, but there is a demo for PC linked to from the project page.

Red Goddess (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yanimstudio/red-goddess) is visually using colours of seasons well within its 2.5D environments. I've heard that song somewhere before. It is visuallly similar to Giana Sisters (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/project-giana/project-giana).

Axe Princess (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1846467163/axe-princess) is a 2D beat'em up with top-heavy female sprites.

Toby's Island (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1126972722/tobys-island) is a 2D RPG that looks like a lot of effort has already gone into it.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on March 06, 2014, 04:25:06 PM
This popped up in the PXS chat earlier today...

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/shaq-fu-a-legend-reborn (http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/shaq-fu-a-legend-reborn)

Very intriguing, but nothing I'm willing to put money on.


And on the board game side of Kickstarter...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/actionphasegames/heroes-wanted-a-tactical-board-game-for-1-5-heroes (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/actionphasegames/heroes-wanted-a-tactical-board-game-for-1-5-heroes)

Tactical Superhero board game full of zaniness and puns.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on March 09, 2014, 01:31:30 PM
Proven Lands (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thesetales/proven-lands) is a sci-fi game about surviving after a crashlanding on an unknown world. The music and environments create an interesting atmosphere.

Duelyst (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/keithlee/duelyst) is a tactics game with squad members on a grid. The art assets are a strong point, but the launch seems a bit rough.

Earthlock: Festival of Magic (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/171497873/earthlock-festival-of-magic) has relaunched for another Kickstarter attempt. This is one of the more interesting campaigns to have launched so far in 2014.

This popped up in the PXS chat earlier today...

[url]http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/shaq-fu-a-legend-reborn[/url] ([url]http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/shaq-fu-a-legend-reborn[/url])

Very intriguing, but nothing I'm willing to put money on.

This new Shaq-Fu doesn't seem to take itself seriously enough to inspire confidence.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on March 14, 2014, 09:22:33 PM
Duelyst is pretty.


Here is something that folks around here will most probably like: Hero Trap (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1055933980/the-hero-trap) Looks pretty good!


Yeah, Hive Jump waived the white flag for now - too many issues to surmount to have a realistic chance. They will be back though and I think they learned a heck of a lot from this attempt. At the very, very least, a lot more people know about Hive Jump than before so that it only bodes well.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on March 27, 2014, 06:31:19 AM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1451486150/choice-chamber (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1451486150/choice-chamber)

Saw this on Twitch. It's a game that aggregates twitch chat suggestions based on lists within the game that will then affect how the game is played. As a streamer it looks really promising. Having seen some videos of it as well, really looks like if it gets funded and finished it'll be a huge hit.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Baker on April 16, 2014, 10:50:49 PM
This is a very impressive-looking metroidvania (sidescroller) action RPG that Coby pointed out to me like 6 years ago. It looks pretty amazing, if a little odd: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1184202489/heart-forth-alicia (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1184202489/heart-forth-alicia)

Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on April 17, 2014, 12:05:27 AM
It looks like La-Mulana meets David the Gnome. I love it, wish I had cash to throw at it.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Knight Pattern on April 18, 2014, 12:46:16 PM
Heart Forth looks amazing and I'm almost sure to cough up some cash, though one of the people on the staff have some dreck worthy opinions on a certain game I hold in very high regard. At least it's not Ghost Song which looks great but the full creative control is behind one of those TLOU IS GOTG guys.

... but who I'm kidding that tier with the physical art book with lore expansion calls, does it call.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Baker on May 05, 2014, 12:30:23 PM
Check our the Delver's Drop print in this Kickstarter! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wedodostuff/pop-middle-ages (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wedodostuff/pop-middle-ages)


I personally want the He-Man and TMNT posters REAL BAD.

They got our permission, so it's "official" licensing :D or whatever.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 06, 2014, 03:43:41 PM
How did those come to be? Fanboyism? ;D
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Baker on May 06, 2014, 03:46:07 PM
They contacted us a couple of months ago asking if they could do a print based on DDrop. They apparently contacted several indie devs, but it looks like only Shovel Knight and Awesomenauts agreed to let them do prints. I know for a fact they contacted several others, so I'm guessing those companies said "no."
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on May 08, 2014, 05:53:02 PM
A few kickstarters on my radar:

Popup Dungeon (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1829438086/popup-dungeon)

A user-generated-content heavy roguelike inspired by papercraft.  Features co-op play and a dungeon master mode where one player is the DM vs other players.


Amplitude (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/harmonix/amplitude)

Rhythm games, my other love.  An HD remake of the Harmonix original game for PS3/PS4.  Short campaign duration and high funding goal, but they have a pretty strong user base to begin with.


For those of you who like your games in meat-space:

The Agents Return (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/673576049/the-agents-return-the-double-edged-cards-game-is-b)

A strategic card game, relaunched with some new balance changes and more expansions.  Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on May 18, 2014, 08:01:34 AM
A small followup.

A few kickstarters on my radar:

Popup Dungeon (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1829438086/popup-dungeon)

A user-generated-content heavy roguelike inspired by papercraft.  Features co-op play and a dungeon master mode where one player is the DM vs other players.

Funding successful.  8 hours to go.  Lots of cameo characters announced, and I might try adding in a papercraft DDrop rogue down the road if my art skills manage not to mangle it.


Amplitude (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/harmonix/amplitude)

Rhythm games, my other love.  An HD remake of the Harmonix original game for PS3/PS4.  Short campaign duration and high funding goal, but they have a pretty strong user base to begin with.

Five days to go, less than half way funded.  Hard to be optimistic here...


For those of you who like your games in meat-space:

The Agents Return (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/673576049/the-agents-return-the-double-edged-cards-game-is-b)

A strategic card game, relaunched with some new balance changes and more expansions.  Highly recommended.

400+% funded, with a few more tempting stretch goals to go.  They also put in an addon for some pretty sweet looking 100mm miniatures.  The gameplay itself is pretty easy to learn, but the strategies and nuances are deep.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 18, 2014, 12:39:01 PM
No love for Witchmarsh (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1027299776/witchmarsh) here?

Yeah, it got the Hipster Light Drifter optic, but it looks promising, both idea and execution.

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Quote from: crinaya on 2014-05-09, 00:53:02

    Amplitude

    Rhythm games, my other love.  An HD remake of the Harmonix original game for PS3/PS4.  Short campaign duration and high funding goal, but they have a pretty strong user base to begin with.


Five days to go, less than half way funded.  Hard to be optimistic here...

Playstation exclusive. Interlectual property or not, this is exactly the opposite of why most people go to kickstarter...
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on May 18, 2014, 02:22:28 PM
I'm following Witchmarsh, but I don't have the cash. It looks interesting.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on May 18, 2014, 02:39:03 PM
Playstation exclusive. Interlectual property or not, this is exactly the opposite of why most people go to kickstarter...

Yeah, I know.  I happen to have a PS3, or I wouldn't be backing it either.  If they had a Steam Key option, they'd probably be rolling in cash by now.

Maybe they can go back to Sony and point out how they had over 7000 people ready to buy the game within thirteen days, and the number of gamers on Kickstarter must be significantly smaller than the number of gamers on PSN.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on May 19, 2014, 10:05:08 AM
I showed everybody here in the office Witchmarsh the other day - just been too busy to post about it here --- argh!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 19, 2014, 03:20:31 PM
Amplitude was both limited to Sony platforms (When hardcore PC and Linux gamers are influential that category on Kickstarter) and it had a short length of 18 days. An average of $50 per backer seems a bit high. It indicates passionate supporters, but also that the main pre-order tier for the game lacks growth. It still brought in an impressive amount on the first day. Right now 65.8% of its backers came from the first 48 hours according to Kicktraq (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/harmonix/amplitude/#chart-daily). What surprises me is how low the number of comments per day has been on this project. I also did not see much blog presence for the project after its launch. There was a small bump in activity on May 15th (http://kck.st/1fMau1o) when a Joystiq article (http://www.joystiq.com/2014/05/15/harmonix-without-kickstarter-amplitude-goes-back-on-the-shelf/) was posted.

SUPERHOT (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/375798653/superhot) is an example of a well presented campaign. Rage Ride (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/605397828/rage-ride) seems to be an example of the exact opposite for presentation.

2D pixel art fans should look at Kingdom (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/noio/kingdom-1)

Wish I Was Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCponfeWNOI) and Blue Ruin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJo1qrr_8Hc) were crowdfunded films that have released trailers.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on May 19, 2014, 05:14:58 PM
It's very good to see you back Sundew. We missed your input.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on May 20, 2014, 08:52:04 AM
LobsterSundew, how we've missed you!


Hope all is going well for you :D
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Zillie on May 20, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
Universim looks kinda interesting.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crytivogames/the-universim (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crytivogames/the-universim)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on May 20, 2014, 01:40:26 PM
Lobster is returning and mentions one great Kickstarter I forgot to mention! SUPERHOT. It really helps that they already have a decent playable version.

Amplitude backers at $50 per average isn't a suprise, because that's even below the average price for a Playstation title.


Universum looks kinda like spore. I'll check if they let me shape my plante into a culture of planet wrecking raiders. If that's possible, they can have my money. :D

Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on May 21, 2014, 01:30:23 PM
Remember, this Amplitude is supposed to be a PSN crossbuy title, probably retailing around $20.  The high pledges mean a truly dedicated fanbase.  (Plus they got $7500 from Insomniac, plus 3 other $7500 pledges, a $8000 pledge, and 3 $10000 pledges.)

However, they're currently at 640k/775k with 50 hours remaining.  I will definitely say that Harmonix did not run a strong campaign (no stretch goals, big gaps in tier pricing, very little publicity until just these last few days, not responsive on comments, and exclusive content behind a $100 pledge level), but they might just have enough fan support to pull it off.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 21, 2014, 08:07:57 PM
Remember, this Amplitude is supposed to be a PSN crossbuy title, probably retailing around $20.  The high pledges mean a truly dedicated fanbase.  (Plus they got $7500 from Insomniac, plus 3 other $7500 pledges, a $8000 pledge, and 3 $10000 pledges.)

However, they're currently at 640k/775k with 50 hours remaining.  I will definitely say that Harmonix did not run a strong campaign (no stretch goals, big gaps in tier pricing, very little publicity until just these last few days, not responsive on comments, and exclusive content behind a $100 pledge level), but they might just have enough fan support to pull it off.

Yesterday there was a big surge in funds (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/harmonix/amplitude/#chart-daily) of $152,876 with 1,145 new backers for Amplitude. Right now they need about $100,000 more which they could do if more backers with deep pockets show up. Earlier it was looking like it might not make it. They finally saw the spike in the amount of comment activity that they need, but I see a total of just 11 comments for the project creator account. Big pledges from other devs have helped raise the per backer average to $67.72 which is not natural.

I stopped data collection for the Video Games category on March 16th. I wasn't ready to resume collecting when Amplitude launched. I plan to restart gathering data in June when the second campaign for Ray's The Dead (http://ragtagstudio.com/devblog/) goes live. Right now the two projects, mentioned below, are the only ones I'm currently tracking as I get ready.

Beast's Fury (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/beastsfurygame/keep-beasts-fury-going) is a 2D fighting game. I see the project thumbnail itself as a big problem as the phoenix logo on black just doesn't indicate the quality of the campaign behind it; thus, casual browsers might dismiss it before clicking. Backing for a demo is okay, but it would be nice to have some way for people to get the full game or a discount if it ever gets made.

SumoBoy (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sumoboythegame/sumoboy) is an interesting project. It does have some good artistic direction, but I don't know if it will find its audience on Kickstarter.

I haven't seen an Australian Kickstarter campaign yet with a rewards structure that I liked. Often the basic pre-order is priced too high similar to how UK-based video game projects can feel overpriced compared to what North American prices are. Higher physical reward shipping costs, time-zone differences, potential backers having to deal with currency conversions and having to use the alternate system for processing cards put such campaigns at an even further disadvantage compared to North American ones.

It looks like Prefundia might have a problem with troll posts like ones for Hearthstone (http://prefundia.com/projects/view/hearthstone/925/) and Tales from the Borderlands (http://prefundia.com/projects/view/tales-from-the-borderlands/922/).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on June 01, 2014, 05:58:24 PM
Amplitude (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/harmonix/amplitude) made it. There was the largest amount of unallocated funds (That I'm unable to link to reward tiers) I've seen so far for a Kickstarter campaign at 21.93% (http://imgur.com/IUSMpAS).

Beast's Fury (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/beastsfurygame/keep-beasts-fury-going) is the first campaign I've ever considered cancelling my pledge to. Its management appears to be enough of a mess that it might not be worth the risk. The reward structure is also a mess (http://imgur.com/5XPkxTL) with backers now getting an option for the full game at the $45 tier (Too expensive for me to jump up from the $10 tier). I might wait until the last day before pulling out.

A Song for Vigg (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/109042642/a-song-for-viggo-a-game-made-of-paper-unfolding-de) is a point and click adventure game using graphical assets made out of photographed papercraft. The pitch video is very slow paced.

Tic Toc: Time is Your Sandbox (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1249808331/tic-toc-time-is-your-sandbox) is an ambitious idea. I get a Scribblenauts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scribblenauts) or No Time To Explain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Time_To_Explain) feeling from it. Even if the time idea becomes too ambitious, I see potential for fun gameplay in the way they handle world terrain and combat.

I found out about Kickstarter Insights (http://5.79.16.214/index.html) recently. They have some graphs with project stats I took a look at.

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SUCCESS RATE PER CATEGORY
Music, makes the people come together! Categories "Music" & "Art" generally have up to around 15% higher succes rate.

Many projects under the Music category have relatively small minimum goals. Smaller goals are linked to higher chance of success as a smaller campaign needs less to get to 100%. Also, Kickstarter staff generally favour such projects to get featured and I'm disappointed more video game projects don't get featured enough in the newsletters.

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PROJECTS PER DURATION
By far, the most common duration for a project is 60 days, which has been the maximum duration for a Kickstarter project since the summer of 2011.

I assume a typing mistake was made as the bar chart shows a large spike at 30 days. I haven't been tracking the other categories enough, but I thought that 45 days length was more popular than 60 days. While there is a surge at 45 days length it is not as much as I'd thought. It is interesting that the default length for many video game campaigns is so rigidly 30 days while other categories can be more relaxed.

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Success rate per duration
The sweet spot is around 4 weeks duration for your fundraising. The projects of 60 days, high in number of projects, actually show a drop in success rate.

4 weeks x 7 days per week = 28 days. That fits within the 30 days length default many advise. Remember that the sweetspot may be a result of 30 days length being such a popular choice because of the advice that 30 days length is the most successful. There are other factors like the difficulty in running a very long campaign without tiring out. 30 days also fits well into an individual month if you start at the beginning of it. Very long campaigns performing worse has been known for awhile. It is difficult to create a sense or urgency or confidence in a 60 day campaign.

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NUMBER OF PROJECTS PER MONTH. December is a calm month for Kickstart. Maybe a good month without competition?

December has always felt like the most difficult month of the entire year. While there is a lack of competition, the disadvantages are too much. The big problem is the holidays with people travelling and purchasing gifts for relatives putting strain the budgets of potential backers. Bloggers also slow down and relax with annual retrospection pieces like top ten lists. Their graph feels right, except for November having more than October surprising me.

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Success rate per month
February is the best month to start your project. Early spring seems perfect. December and January are (obviously) expensive months where most projects fail.

Janaury doesn't start to pick up momentum until around Janaury 6th and, as mentioned earlier, December is slow so there is no surprise about those two months being the worse. April looks better than I thought it would, but that may just be April being worse off for Video Games than other categories. February and March have been good months. I dislike running campaigns after October. In May the indie video game projects have to deal with competing with AAA title announcements for blogger attention. Slow periods are often visible as decrease in traffic to Kickstarter itself (https://www.quantcast.com/kickstarter.com/traffic).

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NUMBER OF PROJECTS PER DAY OF THE WEEK
Kickstarter is not a hobby. By far, most projects start during the week.

Their graph fits well with what I've been recommending since 2011. Expect Fridays and weekends to be slow, so wait until there is better traffic to launch.

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SUCCESS RATE PER DAY OF THE WEEK
Starting your project towards the weekend makes solid drop in the success rate of your project.

Their graph is an even better illustration of why to avoid ending Thursday to Saturday. Sunday late at night is my favourite day to end because there can be a big social media campaign over the weekend rallying last minute backers. Sometimes high profile campaigns launch late Sunday just before midnight. I really do not like to see advice such as WIRED's article advising to end on a Saturday afternoon (http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2014/06/how-to/succeed-on-kickstarter) when the data I see says to stay away from Saturday.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on June 03, 2014, 09:09:44 PM
I remembered there is a graph for average campaign duration per category (http://sidekick.epfl.ch/stats) on SideKick's site.

June has brought a new wave of projects. So far it has felt a bit weak, but here were some of the ones I'm following. Watching the character running away from mobs reminded me of Devler's Drop.

FranknJohn (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bitsmithgames/franknjohn) is one of the better looking of the new wave of June projects. It describes itself as a smash 'em up.

See No Evil (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/275325982/see-no-evil) is a little weak with its project page, but I liked the pitch video. It is an isometric puzzle game.

Mechagami (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/424765036/mechagami) is from the developer of the Chrontotron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronotron) flash game.

BEARZERKERS (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wildgrass/bearzerkers-subversive-indirect-multiplayer) is a multiplayer arena game with a panda bear rampaging around.

Skara The Blade Remains (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/408234422/skara-the-blade-remains-0) is an online PVP game. When I saw the project go live I don't think there was a pitch video uploaded. The name was familiar. A previous campaign (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skara/skara-the-blade-remains/) made with a different account failed.

CrowdCharts (http://crowdcharts.com/) has tracking of Kickstarter campaign stats in hourly increments. It also has a tiers split (http://crowdcharts.com/campaign/skara-the-blade-remains/tiers) feature that I like. If it continues to improve its features I may start recommending it over Kicktraq because I've been waiting for a more sophisticated online tool for looking up performance of campaigns that I'm not tracking like Reading Rainbow (http://crowdcharts.com/campaign/bring-reading-rainbow-back-for-every-child-everywhere)'s $3 million (so far) campaign.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on June 10, 2014, 11:50:41 PM
With E3 2014 happening it should be another difficult time for projects to get press coverage.

There was a WSJ article (http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/measuring-kickstarters-successes-and-failures-1422/) with some cool charts comparing the different categories on Kickstarter.

HomeMake (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/franklincosgrove/homemake) is a game with beautiful screenshots of a procedural city lining the inside of a sphere. It needs to work more on explaining its gameplay.

Paparazzi (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/920841809/paparazzi) was the result of a game. One player control a pixel art celebrity trying to escape to a limosine while another player is the paparazzi trying to take photographs. The rewards are priced steep.

Deadskins (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/587037378/deadskins) is a campaign with undead native American combat that has an interesting feel to it, but the campaign is setup very rough with little chance of making its huge goal.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on June 11, 2014, 12:10:27 AM
Deadskins (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/587037378/deadskins) is a campaign with undead native American combat that has an interesting feel to it, but the campaign is setup very rough with little chance of making its huge goal.

The name is also...really questionable.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on June 16, 2014, 08:37:03 PM
Deadskins ([url]https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/587037378/deadskins[/url]) is a campaign with undead native American combat that has an interesting feel to it, but the campaign is setup very rough with little chance of making its huge goal.


The name is also...really questionable.

I've now learned from Urban Dictironary it is a "Derogatory term for the washington redskins" (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=washington%20deadskins).

A lot of the smaller video game projects on Kickstarter have stalled out right now.

Catlateral Damage (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/chrixeleon/catlateral-damage) is a cat simulator where you can knock things over. It is already close to 500 backers on day 1.

Midora (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1867607597/midora-0) is a 2D action adventure game that has relaunched.

Glitch (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/enhousestudios/glitch) is a turn-based RPG. Go to the gameplay preview video first instead of the pitch video. The problem with this campaign is currently the pitch and project thumbnail don't convey much info about the game itself. The write-ups show some good ingredients for having strong characters.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on June 16, 2014, 10:06:06 PM
Deadskins ([url]https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/587037378/deadskins[/url]) is a campaign with undead native American combat that has an interesting feel to it, but the campaign is setup very rough with little chance of making its huge goal.


The name is also...really questionable.

I've now learned from Urban Dictironary it is a "Derogatory term for the washington redskins" ([url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=washington%20deadskins[/url]).


I was mostly referring to it sounding a lot like Redskins, didn't know it was a slang for the team. I'm certain the game makers aren't looking to offend or anything but I think it might cause some backlash.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on June 17, 2014, 02:59:33 AM
Yeah, Redskins itself is a derogatory term for Native Americans, so the naming convention of Deadskins, while it lends to the whole undead Indians motif and is admittedly a little clever, could be construed as offensive.

Not necessary done with malicious intent at all, it sounds like Christopher Garnaas (the lead on the project) just has a concept he has faith in and wants to make something out of it, but I think with the unsavory historical association of the term, it is objectively a little ignorant of him and thus would be legitimate for some groups to be offended by it.

In the end, it comes down to who is using the term, how are they using it, and why. In Deadskin's case I want to say it has some small details in the campaign that are really questionable, game modes like "Capture the Scalp" really don't scream to me that they're trying to put Native American culture in a positive light, but I guess for the time it's set in it is something that did occur, and that you play as American Indian warriors fighting against a more vilified force in that it's a bunch of ruthless zombies, I guess it could be worse, but I feel like it's asking for trouble in a lot of places. I just don't know that making a whole game mode out of scalping a dude for the sake of avoiding just using a flag or different alternative is worth the controversy.

At the same time, it'd be unfair not to take into account that they're working on the project to try to entertain people with a unique approach to a zombie game, not tear down Native American culture. It certainly doesn't flaunt itself as an accurate portrayal by a long-shot XD
Visually it's definitely an eye-grabber with all the neon mixed in with the Wild West era setting (a bit of a confusing combination, but they did a decent job with it) and the gameplay, though pretty early and slippery-looking at this point, could definitely develop into something good. If there is any significant story, as long as it doesn't turn out with you fighting Giant Zombie General Custer while he spouts racist one-liners and fires cannons at you it should be okay, but yeah, this is one project that, granted it gets funded and/or developed, (I guess it's early to say but it seems the project's had a really slow start for its lofty goal) will need to tip-toe delicately around this sort of controversy when it comes to light with more public media sites.

Sadly I think this is the kind of stuff that's bait for media to latch onto and point fingers at for some controversy stories, so if they get funded they'll have to strap in for a bumpy ride with their PR interactions.

...Sorry I kind of derailed the purpose of this thread for a while there. I think I need a better outlet for my writing binges. X_X
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on June 17, 2014, 04:37:51 AM
Sadly I think this is the kind of stuff that's bait for media to latch onto and point fingers at for some controversy stories, so if they get funded they'll have to strap in for a bumpy ride with their PR interactions.

This is mostly what I'm worried about. Don't know much about the game or the people behind it but I wouldn't discount the media, any media, latching on to drum up some controversy over what may or may not be innocuous.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on June 17, 2014, 07:49:40 AM
If there is any significant story, as long as it doesn't turn out with you fighting Giant Zombie General Custer while he spouts racist one-liners and fires cannons at you it should be okay...

Final Boss: General Whitey Weißmann  ::)

Na seriously, I'm sure you can be offended about everything if you dig deep enough and want to. Heck, I could make up dozens of problems around any game in a second that would sound plausible for the easily offended.
As a kickstarter I doubt that they will have much success if they go for too "controversial" topics, but for the game itself, anything goes. No need to force some morale, guilt etc onto the player.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on June 17, 2014, 11:43:53 PM
The creators of The Path (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Path_(video_game)) have come to Kickstarter with their new game Sunset (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/taleoftales/sunset-a-first-person-videogame-thriller). I don't like how they setup their pitch. It was hard to watch all the way through with all the pop-ups, different audio levels and too much mashed together.

Twin Souls: The Path of Shadows (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/linceworks/twin-souls) finally launched. It is a 3rd person stealth game with a strong art style.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on June 21, 2014, 02:43:30 PM
Temporus (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/firebelly/temporus) is another game like A.N.N.E. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1445624543/anne) that has both a 2D platformer and a shoot'em-up.

Soon Shovel Knight (http://www.destructoid.com/psa-here-s-the-status-on-all-of-the-shovel-knight-kickstarter-rewards-and-stretch-goals-276858.phtml) will be sending out rewards.

In the news there has recently been a surge in stories about the movement to change the name of the Washington Redskins (http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/06/21/what-is-a-slur-fight-over-washington-redskins-name-raises-many-questions-about-race-and-language/). A name change for Deadskins looks even more logical.

Beast's Fury had a burst of new backers in its last hours. The per backer average pledge was $59.29 with the performance of the $45 tier pushing it over 100%. I mentally treat campaigns with a $10 main tier different from those with a $15 main tier. The higher the price for the main tier the stronger the game and its presentation should be. Beast's Fury was technically a $45 main tier campaign. I usually don't have much confidence in campaigns that charge more than $25 for the main tier unless it is a project from someone famous.
http://i.imgur.com/wp7BJlU (http://i.imgur.com/wp7BJlU)

The Game That Time Forgot isn't a Kickstarter campaign, but it has what could have been a great pitch video for one. It made 7 minutes go by quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b0tSu0QDQ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b0tSu0QDQ0)

It is going to be tough for the small campaigns now that there is the Steam Summer Sale until the end of the month.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on June 21, 2014, 05:12:27 PM
In the news there has recently been a surge in stories about the movement to change the name of the Washington Redskins ([url]http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/06/21/what-is-a-slur-fight-over-washington-redskins-name-raises-many-questions-about-race-and-language/[/url]). A name change for Deadskins looks even more logical.


As a local to the Washington area and living in the general vicinity of a large amount of Redskin fans...  This comes up every couple years.  If anything will happen or not this time we will see, but it isn't new by any means.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on June 23, 2014, 11:49:02 PM
InSomnia (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1892480689/insomnia-an-rpg-set-in-a-brutal-dieselpunk-univers) is a diesel-punk art styled RPG that has a lot of buzzwords in its pitch video. It is a relaunch.

The Deer God (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1907053239/the-deer-god-a-game-of-reincarnation-pc-mac-linux) has an interesting use of 3D voxel pixel art.

TerraTech (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/payloadstudios/terratech-physics-based-vehicle-construction-and-c) reminded me about Scraps (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nition/scraps-customisable-vehicle-combat-for-windows-mac). Both are physics-based vehicle construction games.

Areal (http://www.craveonline.ca/gaming/articles/712263-ex-stalker-and-metro-devs-seek-crowd-funding-for-stalker-spiritual-successor) is a campaign that has been announced. It is a spiritual successor to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. from people who worked on that game and Metro: Last Light.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on June 24, 2014, 07:02:34 AM
What suprises me is how colorfull the concepts for Areal seem. I don't know how much of the Ex-Metro makers is onto this, but they definitely did great jobs on their series (also budget wise; important for kickstarter).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on June 24, 2014, 10:15:53 PM
We Are the Dwarves (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/whalestudio/we-are-the-dwarves) caught my attention today. It has very good 3D models.

Areal (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1577656602/areal) launched earlier than expected around 10am PST. It didn't even launch in the video games category. Everything except the narration seems very thrown together. There is too much wrong with the campaign to finish typing up before bedtime.

A Whispering Willows update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/daevo/whispering-willows-horror-puzzle-game-for-ouya-and/posts/888748) is interesting. They are participating in something like Lootcrate (https://www.lootcrate.com/) but with an indie games focus.

Just now there seems to be some controversy in the comments section for Areal. People are pulling out pledges.
"We have contacted GSC's lawyers regarding this fraudulent claim of being the developers of Stalker and Metro Last Light. Please do all you can do ensure people know these claims are false."
https://forum.survarium.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3450 (https://forum.survarium.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3450)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on June 25, 2014, 10:19:36 AM
We are dwarfs looks good, but I'd liek to see a bit more of the actual game idea. Story and world design seem fairly innovative.




http://www.vg247.com/2014/06/25/s-t-a-l-k-e-r-2-areal-vostock-sparks-legal-and-fraud-threats/ (http://www.vg247.com/2014/06/25/s-t-a-l-k-e-r-2-areal-vostock-sparks-legal-and-fraud-threats/)

This is getting interesting.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: nagatopain17 on June 26, 2014, 04:18:15 PM
(yes, this is the same post as my other topic... don't judge.)
Hello everybody. I don't want to be that guy who advertises other games willy nilly, but here it is.

I'm not gonna type out all the information as it is already typed up much better than I could manage elsewhere. Instead, I'll post a couple links or so to information. If it looks good to you guys, please feel free to click on the lowest link and help it with some funding that it needs to continue. I have great hopes for this game, and hopefully you all like what you see. :)

http://www.indiedb.com/games/dungeonforge (http://www.indiedb.com/games/dungeonforge)

http://www.indiedb.com/games/dungeonforge/news/real-time-global-illumination-tech-demo (http://www.indiedb.com/games/dungeonforge/news/real-time-global-illumination-tech-demo)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1004444231/dungeonforge-be-the-ultimate-dungeon-master (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1004444231/dungeonforge-be-the-ultimate-dungeon-master)

The above three links should give some great info on the game. The kickstarter and first link share most of the same info, though one or the other may hold a little more for you. If you have any questions you should be able to find information around google or on those links someplace. I honestly don't know any more than what's posted. The game used to have a site, but it seems like its down for one reason or another. Anyways, here's the funding link. Thanks for reading this far!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dungeonforge-keep-the-dream-alive--2/x/8032688 (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dungeonforge-keep-the-dream-alive--2/x/8032688)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on June 29, 2014, 11:09:47 PM
Horror game Bulb Boy (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1216321816/bulb-boy) launched on Friday and has had a slow start. Hopefully it will do better on Monday when traffic should improve. It still has just 31 backers including myself. It looks like a lot of effort went into this game already.

Timespinner (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lunarraygames/timespinner) is a Metroidvania project that is doing well after it too has a slow start, but then the campaign suddenly exploded in growth (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/lunarraygames/timespinner/#chart-daily) on its second day.

There is a funny teaser trailer for Paradigm (http://www.paradigmadventure.com/). A Kickstarter campaign for it has been announced (http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/29azrc/screenshot_saturday_178_summertime_screenshots/cij5rbb).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et8QqNIZIT8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et8QqNIZIT8)

I found myself overloaded with project previews to critique this weekend after my guide on Reddit was rediscovered. Some of them were interesting.

Areal is surprisingly still getting backers (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1577656602/areal/#chart-daily). It is getting closer to 70% funded. I thought it would have been suspended.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on June 29, 2014, 11:44:02 PM
Horror game Bulb Boy (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1216321816/bulb-boy) launched on Friday and has had a slow start. Hopefully it will do better on Monday when traffic should improve. It still has just 31 backers including myself. It looks like a lot of effort went into this game already.

Just did a review of this game on my channel. It's interesting and looks great but if you don't like Point and Click Adventures the demo at least leaves a lot to desire.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on July 02, 2014, 09:16:22 PM
Mighty Tactical Shooter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/themightygit/mighty-tactical-shooter-a-turn-based-shoot-em-up) is a turn-based shoot'em up. There are some interesting execution ideas for making what is normally a reflex heavy genre into a turn-based one.

Pyrella (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1826321207/pyrella) is a Metroidvania set in a dark temple.

Coffin Dodgers (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/milkytea/coffin-dodgers) is a scooter racing game. I don't know how much depth there is to the racing, but I like the 3D modeling.

There is some interesting data about new projects by hour (http://www.crummy.com/2012/08/06/0).

There was an interview with Deadskins' dev (http://www.spawnfirst.com/articles/kick-goal-deadskins/).

I'm still overloaded with multiple project previews. It looks like TIGSource members found out about my guide. I finally decided to make an account (http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?action=profile;u=68970) there today instead of just occasionally lurking.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on July 03, 2014, 11:22:54 AM
I checked out the demo for Mighty Tactical Shooter.  While I wanted to like the game, I just couldn't get a feel for it.  I'm sure some more polish might bring it in line, but the gameplay did not feel like they were advertising in my opinion.  Half of my turns were just moving back and forth waiting to see what was going to come next since you can't strategically plan for what you can't see on your screen yet.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Zillie on July 08, 2014, 01:15:59 PM
In case this one hasn't been posted yet. Throw some  :$: :$: :$: at this guy, will you!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on July 08, 2014, 06:05:06 PM
I'm so glad this exists.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: nagatopain17 on July 08, 2014, 06:17:48 PM
I love how it's still growing, i saw that less than a week ago and it was still getting close/slightly above the goal... wow. People are hilarious.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on July 09, 2014, 08:33:52 PM
A Polygon article (http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/7/5876971/kickstarter-potato-salad-crowdfunding) talks about said potato salad.

There is a project called The Gandfather. I'm NOT making POTATO SALAD! (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/michaelpatrickrogers/im-not-making-potato-salad-im-making-an-indie-game).

A Twin Souls update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/linceworks/twin-souls/posts/891978) is a very good example for how to do add-on rewards. There is even a small instructional grapghic for how to increase one's pledge for an add-on. It is trending to 48% on Kicktraq (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/linceworks/twin-souls/#chart-daily).

Solarix (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kissltd/solarix) didn't look like it was going to be interesting when I clicked it. What I found is a project sitting with just 2 backers that is a first-person survival horror game made with Unreal 4.

The quality of campaigns launching feels like rock bottom. For the last two days I've been getting a lot of practice converting video clips into animated GIFs and upgraded to Imgur Pro so I can host more graphs there.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on July 16, 2014, 05:53:20 PM
A number of projects like We Are The Dwarves have been cancelling out of lack of morale. The $10,000 pledge near the end of We Are The Dwarves is mysterious as Kicktraq (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/whalestudio/we-are-the-dwarves/) doesn't show it on the daily tab.
http://i.imgur.com/aETvZY7.png (http://i.imgur.com/aETvZY7.png)

More poor quality campaigns are launching. The new streamlined approval process is resulting in more and more projects like Nothing Simulator 2015 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/beatles1/nothing-simulator-2015). It may cause users of the site to just ignore the Recently Launched section which will harm smaller projects. Some people are complaining that the changes are allowing campaigns that damage Kickstarter's brand. After seeing what happened to IndieGoGo, I have to agree that the old approval process probably produces better ecosystem health.

Knuckle Club (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kilobite/knuckle-club) is a brawler with detailed pixel art. It is one of the more impressive projects to have launched in the last few weeks.

Mad Joan Run (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/433134262/joan-mad-run) was one of the devs on TIGSource who messaged me. I had a message almost ready to click send when it launched. $17 is too high a price for a main reward tier for an iOS game like this. I regret not getting the reply out fast enough.

Ninja Pizza Girl (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1107526107/ninja-pizza-girl) is a 2.5D parkour game.

Bacon Man (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/731015134/bacon-man-an-adventure) is another 2.5D game.

I was inspired by a post for FORCED (http://imgur.com/2P7L1), so now I'm making posts like that for campaigns about to launch. This weekend I might be in full marketing mode depending on if a project creator decides to launch this Monday.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on July 16, 2014, 08:33:05 PM
I played Bacon Man a couple months ago as a demo of it was featured at the MassDiGi 2014 Game Challenge. It was a little buggy as it was an early build obviously, but they really had some good designs behind it. Little stuff like gaining a little height by shooting your gun downwards, using enemies as platforms over freezing water, a simple but satisfying melee system, etc.

It had a really corny vibe to its story, but I really think there was some love put into that game and its weird personality really shows at some points. There were a nice couple of secrets in the demo that were difficult but satisfying to reach, so it's not just a straightforward quickly thought out platformer with a bacon gimmick. If nothing else, if you had a soft spot for something like Earthworm Jim back when that was a thing, you'd probably appreciate Bacon Man in some small way.

There's my two cents anyways, I'd say the game deserves to be funded, the devs were really nice guys, pretty young and I think it's their first real foray into game development, I wish them success with their campaign.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on July 18, 2014, 07:47:44 PM
Bacon Man is trending well on Kicktraq (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/731015134/bacon-man-an-adventure/#chart-daily). It has reached the 30% funding tipping point.

I had planned to spend all day posting around Reddit to promote a project before it launched, but it looks like the project is going to have to delay itself for now.

Jotun (https://twitter.com/JotunGame/status/488457898247618562) is getting ready to launch. It is a top-down action adventure with some fluid animation.

Snot (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2023096568/snot) has telepathic gateways to the Flamingo World and a mollusc protagonist. It is weird game with some personality.

Inherit the Earth: Sand and Shadows (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1867564967/inherit-the-earth-sand-and-shadows) is an adventure game sequel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inherit_the_Earth:_Quest_for_the_Orb).

Backers of Yogventures (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/winterkewlgames/yogventures) are getting Steam keys for TUG (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nerdkingdom/tug-1) as a result of Yogventures' development stalling (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-07-17-kickstarter-funded-yogventures-canned-backers-given-steam-key-for-another-game-instead).

A GDC talk (http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/2ad9fu/tips_for_making_a_killer_ks_and_greenlight_video/citxd8z) linked to on Reddit is a good read before editing a pitch video.

Twin Souls didn't reach its goal. I was surprised how quiet its last 48 hours were.
http://i.imgur.com/RUD7bup.png (http://i.imgur.com/RUD7bup.png)

In has been about a year since the last episode of Lobster's List for Kickstarter and the last post of Kickstarter Katchup (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/kickstarter-katchup/). Now that the Recently Launched feed is more cluttered there is increased need for such things.

Areal is still going (http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/07/18/areal-kickstarter-finally-gets-some-gameplay-footage/).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on July 24, 2014, 03:16:29 PM
Ray's The Dead has its Prefundia page up. I'm planning to release an updated Kickstarter guide during their campaign including what I learned about timing campaigns since the last guide.
http://prefundia.com/projects/view/rays-the-dead/2072/ (http://prefundia.com/projects/view/rays-the-dead/2072/)

Jotun (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/682108903/jotun) is doing well in the rankings on Kickstarter.
http://i.imgur.com/RWyeBlP.png (http://i.imgur.com/RWyeBlP.png)

Braven Hearts (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1904078825/braven-arts-by-gomiya-games) is a JRPG-style game with tile-based combat.

Jenny LeClue (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mografi/jenny-leclue-a-handmade-adventure-game) is an adventure game with good animation..

Vanguard Valkyrie (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1662894668/vanguard-valkyrie) is a space railshooter that I've been listening to the title theme (https://soundcloud.com/virtjk/turn-around-title-theme/s-3DOJR) and its remix (https://soundcloud.com/virtjk/turn-around-remix) looped this morning. What I don't like the campaign is that the pitch video isn't frontloaded with gameplay. The pitch should have started with the material around the 2 minute 9 seconds mark. Its thumbnail is probably also harming the campaign's click rate.

An article (http://wiiudaily.com/2014/07/areal-kickstarter-is-a-scam/) about Areal is a good read.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on July 30, 2014, 12:42:59 PM
Vanguard Valkyrie had an IP dispute, so it is now Vanguard V. The dispute temporary stopped the countdown, so after resuming it is now ending at the poor time of 9:29am PDT on Saturday August 23rd.

There is drama about Knuckle Club (http://www.businessinsider.com/airbnb-squatter-vows-to-squat-again-2014-7). I thought it was going to be good before finding out about its past.

Aegis Defenders (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1798022489/aegis-defenders) is a strong campaign, but I didn't see Linux support. It has an art style inspired by 16-bit games and Nausica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausica%C3%A4_of_the_Valley_of_the_Wind_(film)).

Mundus (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1669485357/mundus) is a small 2D survival game set on the curved surface of a small planet. It is PC-only, otherwise I was considering backing.

Stash: No Loot Left Behind (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/frogdice/stash-no-loot-left-behind-pc-mac-linux) is a multiplayer dungeon crawling RPG.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on July 30, 2014, 02:01:35 PM
Huh... VERY strong Nausicaa inspiration on Aegis Defenders, though mostly just for the main character designs, primarily their cloaks and the old man's wonderfully poofy beard and glasses, they have a distinct style to em, and a bit of the environmental art as well (very familiar to the Toxic Jungle segments of Nausicaa, but I get the idea that was the whole intention). Looks very nice, I hope Studio Ghibli doesn't mind the resemblance. :P

Either way, some pretty awesome concepts to it just from a glance, a mix of sidescrolling exploration with periods of strategic defense placement to survive wave attacks, could be really good. Might not back it just yet, but I'll definitely keep an eye on that one for whenever it releases.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on August 02, 2014, 11:41:14 AM
The start of a new month means a surge of new campaigns. Unfortunately August 2014 starts on a Friday. A bunch of decent campaigns are wasting part of their first 48 hours on a Saturday. I'm noting in my guide that the weekly traffic cycle takes priority over starting at the beginning or middle of a new month.

Bolt Riley (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/soundguy/bolt-riley-a-reggae-adventure-game-chapter-1) is making a second attempt. The campaign decided to only have 7 days. It doesn't even complete on weekly cycle which will harm its ability to get as much coverage in time. There is a time delay for some blogs to prepare posts. Some blog columns are weekly. It looks like they are trying to just qualify for Ouya funding which is why the campaign is so handicapped. The rocket selfie (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/soundguy/bolt-riley-a-reggae-adventure-game/posts/933248) also upset people because the project is based in Israel. Some backers said in comments on the old campaign they won't pledge again. The performance is not doing as well as it should for a reboot.
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/soundguy/bolt-riley-a-reggae-adventure-game/#chart-daily (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/soundguy/bolt-riley-a-reggae-adventure-game/#chart-daily)
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/soundguy/bolt-riley-a-reggae-adventure-game-chapter-1/#chart-daily (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/soundguy/bolt-riley-a-reggae-adventure-game-chapter-1/#chart-daily)

Paperbound (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1521279495/paperbound) reminds me of Towerfall. A local multiplayer demo is available.

Engauge! (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/431842510/engauge) is a platformer with interesting pitch music and a blue robot with large arms.

Cavern Kings (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vine/cavern-kings) uses stacking power-ups.

Unnecessary Sentience (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1495513399/unnecessary-sentience-a-point-and-click-adventure) is a weird point and click adventure that should have added more to its project page.

Elysian Shadows (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1945059142/elysian-shadows-next-gen-2d-rpg) is a perhaps overambitious RPG with Ouya as a supported platform. I'm watching how well its rewards work. It used many many tiers with the same pricing.

Ray's The Dead has two of its team members relocating from Chicago to Dallas (http://ragtagstudio.com/devblog/?p=237) so they can join the third member of the team. Their daily driving progress is being tweeted (https://twitter.com/RagtagChris). The plan is to relaunch their project when the team has finished moving to Dallas.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on August 02, 2014, 09:06:24 PM
Cavern Kings looks like Vlambeer's Super Crate Box had a baby with Risk of Rain. Not a bad thing. =D
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: nagatopain17 on August 02, 2014, 09:49:29 PM
Just as a quick update on a game i previously mentioned, Dungeonforge has been fully funded. ( No small thanks to somebody donating over 3k to push it that far... wow. ) In case anybody was interested but worrying if it would make it or not, here's the link to the campaign. The dev ( or devs? ) already have purchased the tickets they needed to get back stateside into the same working area to keep going. I have hope for the future, and cant wait to see where they go. :)

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dungeonforge-keep-the-dream-alive--2/x/8032688#home (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dungeonforge-keep-the-dream-alive--2/x/8032688#home)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Coby on August 06, 2014, 09:49:27 AM
Our friends (and former colleagues) up at Graphite Lab are now back for round 2 with their game Hive Jump. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/graphitelab/hive-jump-0) They've overhauled a lot of things in the game and in their presentation and I don't see many ways they could improve their pitch.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: nagatopain17 on August 06, 2014, 08:06:20 PM
Found a really cool looking side scrolling game if you like those. It almost reminds me of Trine in some ways, if you like that style of game. It's called Woolfe - The Red Hood Diaries and it's a new twist on red riding hood that looks really cool. It makes her the heroine and "corrupts" other traditional fairy tail characters like Pinocchio and such. :D

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/45588301/woolfe-the-red-hood-diaries (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/45588301/woolfe-the-red-hood-diaries)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on August 07, 2014, 09:16:10 AM
http://www.dorkly.com/post/66182/how-to-run-a-successful-videogame-kickstarter (http://www.dorkly.com/post/66182/how-to-run-a-successful-videogame-kickstarter)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Zillie on August 07, 2014, 11:11:34 AM
[url]http://www.dorkly.com/post/66182/how-to-run-a-successful-videogame-kickstarter[/url] ([url]http://www.dorkly.com/post/66182/how-to-run-a-successful-videogame-kickstarter[/url])


"Three weeks. Tops."
I'm dying ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on August 07, 2014, 11:08:41 PM
A wave of new projects launched.

Hard West (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1752350052/hard-west) is an isometric 3D tactics game with a strong teaser trailer.

Comatose (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/604680309/comatose-indie-horror-game) is a psychological first-person horror game.

Albino Lullaby (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/apelaw/albino-lullaby) is another first person horror game. This one has some interesting level design.

Caverns of Travencore (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/260112360/caverns-of-travencore) is a 2D action roguelike.

A Rite From The Stars (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/risingoat/a-rite-from-the-stars-a-3d-graphic-adventure) is a 3D adventure game with a demo.

Fallen: A2P Protocol (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1228828169/fallen-a2p-protocol) is an X-COM-like game.

Super Galaxy Squadron (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1409989123/super-galaxy-squadron) is a shoot'em-up.

Kôna (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/studioparabole/kona-a-survival-adventure-game) us a first person survival game set in a Quebec Winter.

The Sun Also Rises (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/602251016/the-sun-also-rises-a-different-kind-of-war-game) is a 3rd person exploration game about soldiers.

Bears Can't Drift (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/140457896/bears-cant-drift) is a 3D cart racing game.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on August 08, 2014, 12:05:57 AM
A friend of mine showed me Albino Lullaby, the creepy malformed faces remind me a little of the Glukkons from the Oddworld series. Very freaky.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on August 10, 2014, 12:33:55 AM
Tetropolis (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/708039348/tetropolis) is Tetris combined with a Metroidvania.

Bolt Riley's reboot was funded. I thought it wasn't going to make it at first. It has $11,236 in unallocated funding that is approximately 35% of what they raised. It should not be used as an example for how to properly reboot a campaign.
http://i.imgur.com/JibDCJ9.png (http://i.imgur.com/JibDCJ9.png)

HiveJump's graph shows really steady growth over the last 3 days. It is a bit eerie.
http://i.imgur.com/j4dDMSw.png (http://i.imgur.com/j4dDMSw.png)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on August 14, 2014, 01:11:25 AM
Not many good projects launched this week. Gamescom is happening.

A Night Trap campaign is causing drama (http://kotaku.com/night-trap-creators-defend-sloppy-kickstarter-sorta-1620307753).

I'm starting to share an Imgur post around as part of Ray's The Dead's marketing push.
http://imgur.com/gallery/7DUYF/ (http://imgur.com/gallery/7DUYF/)

One of the more difficult steps in designing rewards is deciding how many slots an early-bird tier should have. Too few and it might not give much traction at the start. Too many and the project will be less efficient at getting funded until the early-bird is depleted. There is the recent concept of a time-limited early-bird reward tier. A date is set for the reward tier to expire and after that the number of available open slots is reduced to zero. A pre-launch marketing push and press on day 1 is required for this tactic to work well. The previous Ray's The Dead campaign had 444 backers (http://i.imgur.com/RQ7D5Wr.png) on its old $12 tier. The time-limited reward provides an incentive for them to return on day 1 of the new campaign to keep that low price.

There is also version 2 of my Kickstarter guide getting closer to being ready. I have to keep the scope creep down.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on August 18, 2014, 10:02:09 PM
Ray's The Dead (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ragtag/rays-the-dead-0) is now live. I have to hurry to get my guide ready to post.

I didn't have much time to look at it, but the growth for Hive Jump's reboot wasn't looking too healthy for awhile. It is starting to do better very recently. I hope they do make it this time.
http://i.imgur.com/jUQRIIA.png (http://i.imgur.com/jUQRIIA.png)

Hotline Miami - Jacket Figure (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/731983185/hotline-miami-jacket-figure) is an articulated figure based on the player character from its namesake.

Vagante (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nukenine/vagante) is a co-op 2D action platformer. It is a bit like Towerfall in feeling when it shows arrows flying.

Nefarious (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/749082525/nefarious) has a villain as its main playable character.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on August 18, 2014, 10:08:18 PM
Vagante (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nukenine/vagante) is a co-op 2D action platformer. It is a bit like Towerfall in feeling when it shows arrows flying.

I actually played the Demo for an Indie Brew. It's more like Spelunky honestly, meets a bit of Final Fantasy. I really liked it and can't wait for the full game.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Knight Pattern on August 23, 2014, 09:40:55 PM
Vagante is really good, it really is Spelunky: RPG. Wizard is a pretty terrible class though.

Second game I've kickstarted, in fact.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on August 23, 2014, 10:23:42 PM
Ray's The Dead is now working on stretch goals. It was the most popular active video game campaign for awhile on Kickstarter.
http://i.imgur.com/f3zzlaw.png (http://i.imgur.com/f3zzlaw.png)

Jotun is now over. It had a good final 48 hours.
http://i.imgur.com/K28a2mT.png (http://i.imgur.com/K28a2mT.png)

It is really weird how I thought Jotun would be a tougher campaign than Ray's The Dead to run, but what actually happened is the opposit. It has been hard to get press coverage for Ray.

SUPER III (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/super91/super-iii) is a 2D platformer.

Adventures of Pip (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tictocgames/adventures-of-pip-pc-mac-nintendo-wii-u) is another platformer.

Moon Hunters (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/223711/SQUARE_ENIX_COLLECTIVE_MOON_HUNTERS_KICKSTARTER_CROWDFUNDINGTO_START_NEXT_WEEK.php) Kickstarter campaign has been announced.

There are a number of significant changes to Kickstarter itself this month. There is a new search, thumbnails can now have rounded corners and project can pick a specific hour to end.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on August 31, 2014, 04:13:27 PM
Another PAX is happening.

The Dark Phantom (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1302281717/the-dark-phantom) us an ambitious 3rd person shooter. The graphics are good, but the music sounds like a really generic public domain track and the lip sync could be better. It has been sitting at 12 backers.

Outpost 13 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/911916691/outpost-13) is a pixel art horror game similar to the premise of The Thing.

Noct (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/351030998/noct) has an overhead thermal imaging camera art style to this 2D top-down survival game.

24 Killers (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/497748510/24-killers) has an interesting art style. I'm reminded on the atmosphere of some classic PS2 games. It has only 198 backers when I'm posting this.

Moon Hunters (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kitfoxgames/moon-hunters-a-myth-weaving-rpg) launched with no linux support, ending in the morning on a Friday and a hole in the rewards structure $70 jump to $115.

Adventures of PIP (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tictocgames/adventures-of-pip-pc-mac-nintendo-wii-u) is an example of a rebooted project.

Eminence: Xander's Tales (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1661433091/eminence-xanders-tales) has a really good presentation, but the character art uses a vector style that casual mobile games have tired out. It only has 88 backers.

ZVR Apocalypse (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/746952885/zvr-apocalypse) is a FPS set in a zombie apocalypse.

Fritz's update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/462029764/fritz-a-video-game-about-world-war-one/posts/966328) about why it cancelled was interesting. It was over its goal. Neverending Nightmares was mentioned in the comments section.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on September 04, 2014, 12:37:36 AM
PAX was brutal for the momentum of some campaigns. The dip was really visible.

Ray's The Dead announced its PS Vita support. It finally saw some of the coverage it should have had early on.

Hive Jump (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/graphitelab/hive-jump-0) is close to its goal and its deadline.

It is a new month, so that means a new wave of projects.

Warlocks (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/229931946/warlocks-0) has an interesting art style.

Band Saga (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rekcahdam/band-saga) is musical roguelike. At the end of the video is a Kickstarter parody of the old SEGA screen.

CodeSpells (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thoughtstem/codespells-express-yourself-with-magic) has terrain deformation and altering the property of spells with a type of click-and-drag programming interface.

Carnivores: Dinosaur Hunter Reborn (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitaldreamsent/carnivores-dinosaur-hunter-reborn) is a dinosaur hunting game.

LOOP: A Tranquil Puzzle Game (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/johncullen/loop-a-tranquil-puzzle-game) actually caught my attention for being a project that reminded me of what projects felt like back in 2011.

Jazz Jackrabbit Revival (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/913575118/jazz-jackrabbit-revival) does not look very good. Many warning signs.

Reassembly (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/indievoyage/reassembly) is a 2D space game with customization through assembling shapes. Its pitch video convinced me to back it.

Six Miles Under (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2133721073/six-miles-under) has 2D silhouettes of characters in glorious combat.

There is a 2D open-world game called Poncho (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1971413574/poncho-an-open-world-puzzle-platformer). At 01:14 in the pitch it shows off an interesting background shifting mechanic.

Cube and Me (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/797210197/cube-and-me) is a pet simulator at first, then a combat RPG.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on September 10, 2014, 12:56:43 AM
Hive Jump made it.

Kickstarter changed how the backer avatars work. They are now really tiny and hard to see. Kickstarter continues to try more rounded edges to images. There is now a bouncing balls "Congratulations" animation thing.

I'm watching Pathologic (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1535515364/pathologic)'s rewards closely. There is a lot I like. This is one of the more talked about Video Game category projects right now.

Paradigm (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/857886953/paradigm-surreal-adventure-game) is a surreal adventure game with a sloth as an antagonist. There is an entertaining demo.

Kraden's Crypt (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/67217290/kradens-crypt) is a co-op rogue-like.

Exit Humanity (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/23689197/exit-humanity) is a 2D sidescrolling horror game.

Death to Spies 3 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/haggardgames/death-to-spies-3) is an ambitious 3D steal action game.

Heroes Never Lose: Professor Puzzler's Perplexing Ploy (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/osamadorias/heroes-never-lose-professor-puzzlers-perplexing-pl) is a puzzle game with pixel art superheros.

My new Kickstarter guide is over 41,000 words and growing. I'm worried I may have to rush it near the end to post it before Ray's The Dead's campaign is over. Recent changes to Kickstarter itself also mean I have to rework or add more notes to parts of my guide.

Warlock (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/229931946/warlocks-0) keeps changing its rewards very regularly. Tiers are added, removed and repriced. It is producing interesting data. I've noted 16 changes so far.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on September 18, 2014, 02:20:16 AM
Paradigm is now over 100%. Ray's The Dead is working on stretch goals in its last week.

Clang is doing refunds.

There has been a slowdown for good campaigns launching. Some campaigns are interesting as specimens of strange campaigns.

E M I L Y (http://xingthegame.blogspot.ca/2014/09/the-giant-pax-post-real-in-depth-look.html)'s pitch was really strange in tone.

SUPER MEGA BOUNCE MAN (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/404030322/super-mega-bounce-man-retro-themed-ios-and-android) has an interesting song for pitch video, but there isn't enough to the rest of the page.

More of M.O.R.E. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1447560584/more-of-more) refreshed almost its entire rewards structure in its first 48 hours with new $5, $10, $10, $55, $122 and $237 tiers with a $236 tier removed. I backed the first campaign. I haven't decided if I will pledge to this new one.

My new Kickstarter guide is now over 53,000 words. It is a sprint to get it ready. If anyone wants to give feedback on what is done so far they can message me.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on September 18, 2014, 02:26:25 AM
I'd love to take a look at it Lobster but I think a lot of the technical points would be lost on me. You do awesome work all the same.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Theseekr12 on September 24, 2014, 05:24:03 PM
Check out Dinosword an epic retro platformer about exploration, sacrifice, and a little green dinosaur named Chompy.

Link here:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jlowther/dinosword?ref=category_newest (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jlowther/dinosword?ref=category_newest)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on September 26, 2014, 04:39:37 PM
September 19th had new visual updates to Kickstarter itself again and a new terms of service.

Reflex (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/191095869/reflex) is a 3D arena shooter with a custom map creation system in-game for players.

Lost Homeland (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gabrielbaquerizo/lost-homeland-videogame) has stiff combat animations and has already stalled out.

Retro-Pixel Castles (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1385547263/retro-pixel-castles-village-survival-mayhem) is a RTS with a retro art style.

Blossom Tales (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1441844041/blossom-tales-the-sleeping-king) is from people who worked on Rex Rocket (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1441844041/rex-rocket).

No Pineapple Left Behind (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/subalterngames/no-pineapple-left-behind) is a funny pitch and bizarre school simulation game where children become pineapples.

Mutiny (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hiddenarmada/mutiny-16-player-dual-screen-pirate-mayhem-pc-mobi) is 3D pirate brawler.

GAME LOADING (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/studiobento/game-loading-the-final-push) is trying to fund the finishing of a documentary about indie games.

The New 8-bit Heroes (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1316851183/the-new-8-bit-heroes-new-nes-game-and-creation-doc) is a new NES compatible game and its documentary.

Beep (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/veemix/beep-a-documentary-history-of-video-game-sound) is a documentary about music in video games.

Urbance (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2088672139/urbance) is a very stylish animation project that is making a big splash, but its $1 tier may get it suspended since raffles aren't allowed.

BEDLAM (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skyshinegames/bedlam) has a post-apocalyptic band of adventurers in a legendary dozer. This one might be a campaign that gets some attention. It has some great art assets.

Stardale (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/164935994/stardale) is a 2D sidescrolling procedural game. 00:29 in the pitch video has a kind of cool spaceship crashing scene.

Battle Chef Brigade (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/trinket/battle-chef-brigade) is the next campaign I've been helping on.

My Kickstarter guide has gone through more scope creep. I'm now putting more step by step marketing instructions in.

Neverending Nightmares and TinyKeep are releasing.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/253330/ (http://store.steampowered.com/app/253330/)
http://store.steampowered.com/app/278620/ (http://store.steampowered.com/app/278620/)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on September 26, 2014, 08:27:38 PM
Battle Chef Brigade (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/trinket/battle-chef-brigade) is the next campaign I've been helping on.

Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes. Miyazaki style artwork. Food. RPG. Iron Chef. Yes. I am in love immediately.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on September 27, 2014, 01:59:38 AM
Now they just need to feature an Alton Brown look-alike and it will be the best cooking game ever.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Knight Pattern on September 27, 2014, 07:09:45 PM
BCB has such good character designs, sadly something that isn't so common (to my tastes, which shouldn't need to be said).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on September 27, 2014, 09:12:15 PM
Now they just need to feature an Alton Brown look-alike and it will be the best cooking game ever.

I tweeted something of that effect at the developers. We'll see if they answer back. They're pretty on top of their Twitter correspondence. Very nice folk from what I can tell.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on September 30, 2014, 11:44:56 AM
Battle Chef Brigade made their funding goal in a really short time. Very excited about that news.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/trinket/battle-chef-brigade (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/trinket/battle-chef-brigade)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on October 01, 2014, 12:21:45 AM
Elegy for a Dead World (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dejobaan/elegy-for-a-dead-world-a-game-about-writing-fictio) is a new project from Dejobaan Games (http://www.dejobaan.com/). I did a critique for them before they launched.

Black The Fall (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/503519380/black-the-fall) has a dark atmosphere with an art style based on greys, blacks, whites and reds.

Ascent (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1832776017/help-make-ascent-one-of-the-greatest-space-games-e) is another space game.

Highlands (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/439704341/highlands) is a RPG with good art assets, but the pitch felt a bit akward.

I found the music for Combo Queen (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alexergas/combo-queen) was a bit catchy.

Beyond-Human (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/865069666/beyond-human-pc-mac-ps4-psvita) has some interesting pixel art.

Very bizarre graph for Lost Homeland. The unallocated backers number is spiking to 76% of backers. At first I thought it was an error.
http://i.imgur.com/LCGzxeG.png (http://i.imgur.com/LCGzxeG.png)

Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes. Miyazaki style artwork. Food. RPG. Iron Chef. Yes. I am in love immediately.

Glad you like it. It is doing very well for a campaign of its size.

Here is an infograph for Battle Chef Brigade.
http://i.imgur.com/eJ6vHpK.png (http://i.imgur.com/eJ6vHpK.png)

I see a good distribution of backers in the rewards structure. The numbers decline well from the $15 to $25 to $35 reward tiers. There are only 8 reward tiers, but the structure covers funding hotspots well like the $35 to $45 range and the $90 to $100 range. The distribution of funding is standard looking. The $45 tier is performing well with both the number of backers and the percentage of the funding it is contributing.

I look for steep drops in backer counts from one tier to the next. It is often an indicator of a problem with the rewards structure being able to upsell backers. If a reward tier is less than a fourth of the previous tier's backer count then I take a deeper look. This really only applies in the $1 to $100 range. Battle Chef Brigade is doing well in the $1 to $100 range.

There is gap between the $95 and $495 tiers I would have liked to have seen the gap bridged if the launch hadn't been so much of a rush. One member of the team was awake for almost 48 hours (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/trinket/battle-chef-brigade/posts/996936). A lot of that hard work went into the content of the teaser trailer used for the pitch video. The gap was left because there is the option to add more rewards there later and the rewards structure was good enough to get to 100% funded even with this gap. Now that it is fully funded the incentive to keep manipulating the reward tiers is to make it more efficient at reaching stretch goals. The problem is that it is difficult to find reward content that fits the three requirements of being worth those prices without adding physical rewards, inflating the minimum goal and fitting well with the game's design. I think it is better to focus more on add-ons rewards in this scenario. Backers at the $95 tier selecting add-ons can be the equivalent of having higher priced tiers. The physical rewards are currently t-shirts and posters which are items that can be sourced easily.

Growth slowed over its first weekend as expected, but what I didn't expect was such a huge surge on Monday. I though it would be funded by Friday. Tuesday September 30th was the best day for the campaign for new backers. Over a quarter of their current backers arrived on that day. The Kotaku article (http://kotaku.com/if-iron-chef-was-made-by-studio-ghibli-and-was-a-video-1640572404/all) was a big boost. For some reason Rock Paper Shotgun has not posted yet. It felt like it used to be easy to get coverage from there in the past. The $15 and $25 tiers saw most of the surge.

The comments section has been doing well despite one tiny console flamewar. The daily numbers for comments is good. The Reddit posts I made with my LobsterSundew (http://www.reddit.com/user/LobsterSundew/) and LobsterMashingKeys (http://www.reddit.com/user/lobstermashingkeys) accounts received positive upvote ratios. People are liking the art style and premise. Battle Chef Brigade has been sitting at the top rank in popularity for active Video Game projects on Kickstarter. It still feels like the blog coverage has just started.

When writing this, the project had raised $42,069 (110.7%) from 1,487 backers. I see $20 to $30 as a healthy per backer average pledge amount for a campaign with a $15 pre-order tier. At $28 Battle Chef Brigade falls within that range. There is a just $1,304 in unallocated funding. The Kicktraq page (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/trinket/battle-chef-brigade/#chart-daily) is showing a trend to 532% funded. I don't see it exceeding $115,000. I think even that may be WAY too optimistic because the numbers are too good right now. It might do about $60,000 to 80,000 overall. Once the Kickstarter trough effect is visible, I should have a better idea of how well it will do. The attention sparked by the Kotaku article was a disruption that has delayed the trough.

With Ray's The Dead it was hit hard by a reduction in the sense of urgency after it reached 100% funded. I hope that Battle Chef Brigade's stretch goals will help motivate people to spread the campaign link around once they are shown to the public. Project updates will also become more important to maintain discussion about the game.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on October 05, 2014, 02:31:16 AM
Human Resources (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/human-resources-an-apocalyptic-rts-game) is the next game from the Planetary Annihilation developers. I am stuck between wanting to back it and remembering the fulfilment problems on their previous game.

H. P. Lovecraft’s The Case of Charles Dexter Ward (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/agustincordes/h-p-lovecrafts-the-case-of-charles-dexter-ward) started its pitch in a comical way.

GORGE (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2056013295/gorge-the-food-horror-rpg) has some really good art for a RPGMaker game. It launched on a Saturday night and so far only has 4 backers.

The Outpost 13 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/911916691/the-outpost-13-re-kick) made a poorly planned reboot this Saturday. I'm writing my Kickstarter guide hoping to prevent project creators from making rough reboots like this. They are often timed even worse and don't fix the core problems holding the campaign back.

It is interesting to compare the first Coolest Cooler campaign (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryangrepper/the-coolest-cooler-with-blender-music-and-so-much) to the second one (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryangrepper/coolest-cooler-21st-century-cooler-thats-actually).

Kickstarter project creators spamming their own link in other projects' comment sections can get his or her project suspended. I saw an IndieGoGo project creator (https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/uate7games) spamming his link around. The Kickstarter staff don't have the power to suspend an IndieGoGo campaign.

Battle Chef Brigade had to deal with some backlash because of their stretch goals not including console ports for now. I don't know if Vasae was around when the comments became really heated. The comments section became very negative (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/trinket/battle-chef-brigade/comments?cursor=8036880#comment-8036879). I should have screencaptured a few more comments than I did. It was interesting to see people expose their opinions. Other very experienced backers have commented that this situation is a bit unique. It has a strange tone where some backers went a little across a line they should cross. I get to see information that normal backers won't because I am being asked for my opinions due to my accumulated Kickstarter experiences. I support the developer's decision because I see it as a very well made one. A lot of thought went into these stretch goals about the financial and time budgeting. It might have been a big mistake to jump onto supporting more platforms so soon. Too many platforms might be a mistake that hindsight will expose many current campaigns are currently making. Time will tell if being more risk-adverse was the right call. I think the game will do better upon release because it prioritized quality over many platforms. This is not a retro pixel art game. The hand drawn art is a significant cost.

Since I've backed over 600 projects, I may end up with a spot in the backer club (http://betabeat.com/2014/10/only-vip-kickstarter-enthusiasts-can-join-this-new-exclusive-backer-club/). I see it as an experiment. I actually talked about such organizations forming in my updated Kickstarter guide. The Order of Obsidian was the backer group that inspired that section.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on October 07, 2014, 11:26:19 PM
Two big campaigns launched.

The Black Glove (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/theblackglove/the-black-glove) is getting popular. If you liked BioShock then take a look because it's team had members who worked on that game.

The Flame in the Flood (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/molassesflood/the-flame-in-the-flood) has an amazing trailer. The art design for the Magnolia character is cool. I found the music catchy.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on October 08, 2014, 09:15:20 AM
Battle Chef Brigade had to deal with some backlash because of their stretch goals not including console ports for now. I don't know if Vasae was around when the comments became really heated. The comments section became very negative (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/trinket/battle-chef-brigade/comments?cursor=8036880#comment-8036879). I should have screencaptured a few more comments than I did. It was interesting to see people expose their opinions. Other very experienced backers have commented that this situation is a bit unique. It has a strange tone where some backers went a little across a line they should cross. I get to see information that normal backers won't because I am being asked for my opinions due to my accumulated Kickstarter experiences. I support the developer's decision because I see it as a very well made one. A lot of thought went into these stretch goals about the financial and time budgeting. It might have been a big mistake to jump onto supporting more platforms so soon. Too many platforms might be a mistake that hindsight will expose many current campaigns are currently making. Time will tell if being more risk-adverse was the right call. I think the game will do better upon release because it prioritized quality over many platforms. This is not a retro pixel art game. The hand drawn art is a significant cost.

I avoid Kickstarter Comments like I avoid Youtube comments not on my own videos. I support BCB's decision with applauds and remarked to several people on how I thought it was the right choice to make. Porting can come later if need be, best to focus on the original platform. I've had a chance to speak with some of their crew over Twitter, very fine and friendly folk who seem to know what they're doing. A very similar and gratifying feeling of care and concern I felt with/when Delver's Drop was on it's development role. Probably the second time of the five things I've backed. I'll for sure be pursuing some more media contact with them in the future, as they've expressed some level of interest in my cooking videos.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on October 22, 2014, 01:45:24 AM
Cole: A Game About Coal (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1372199515/cole-a-game-about-coal) has a funny pitch.

DICETINY (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2112685735/dicetiny-the-lord-of-the-dice) has an interesting dark lined art style.

Guns, Fore & Cannoli (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crazymonkeystudios/guns-gore-and-cannoli) has great audio and an interesting 1920s setting.

InnerSpace (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2074789246/innerspace) is a flying exploration game.

Air Brawl (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1190611323/air-brawl) is a flying combat game.

The Facility (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1400220636/the-facility) is a first-person 3D horror game set in a Nazi base.

Medusa's Labyrinth (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/425879580/medusas-labyrinth) is another first-person horror game.

The Dark Throne (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/34228654/the-dark-throne) is actually a cool visual idea. Only 3 backers right now.

Kickstarter now supports Danish krones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_krone) which has made more work for me.

Human Resources cancelled itself. That campaign had a lot of accumulated problems holding it back.
http://i.imgur.com/E5E0ubS.png (http://i.imgur.com/E5E0ubS.png)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on November 01, 2014, 02:28:33 AM
Battle Chef Brigade was funded.
http://i.imgur.com/7Na2tNL.png (http://i.imgur.com/7Na2tNL.png)

I joined BackerClub (http://www.backerclub.co/) when it relaunched. It is a big forum.

There are some good projects launching.

Flamberge (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hydezeke/flamberge) is a tactics RPG. This is another example of a project with a playable demo, but a lack of game footage. The first 33 seconds of its 2 minute 45 second pitch video is devoted to gameplay. I've played through the demo 3 times because I liked it so much.

Laser Fury (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1860826466/laser-fury) with 4 player co-op action brawler. The effects on magic attacks look cool.

Protocol E (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2042447197/protocol-e) is a real-time strategy game with a focus on avoiding the need for heavy micromanagement.

Stowaway (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/31761241/stowaway) is a survival horror game set on a ship. The modelling of the environments is good.

Super Sea Star (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/arasbm/super-sea-star) has a bunch of lobsters.

Aerannis (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ektomarch/aerannis) is a 2D game where the player can take a human shield.

Convoy (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1248554329/convoy-a-tactical-roguelike-like) describes itself as combining Mad Max and FTL. This could be a cool game.

INGONGA (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1096679965/ingonga-a-horror-mystery-in-the-swamps-of-louisian) is a 3D horror game. The stick forests look cool in the dark. The enemies feel a bit off to me. I wonder if it is the animations or modelling.

There was an "Uh-oh" moment on Reddit when I didn't realize I was responding to a comment I didn't know was from the dev of The Case of Charles Dexter Ward (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/agustincordes/h-p-lovecrafts-the-case-of-charles-dexter-ward). It sparked a discussion (http://www.reddit.com/r/DepthHub/comments/2ky1xu/uagustincordes_and_ulobstersundew_discuss_a/).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on November 05, 2014, 11:46:41 AM
As usual, here comes a board game kickstarter post.

The only active kickstarter I am currently backing is Web of Spies. (http://"https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/456676950/web-of-spies-a-secret-agent-boardgame")  Mechanically, it combines deck building with area control.  Thematically, you control a group of globetrotting secret agents gathering assets to help you neutralize (read: kill) your rivals' agents.  Plays two to four players in about an hour.  Lots of good reviews from notables in the board game world, but if it funds it's going to be a close thing...

I backed Yashima (http://"https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/greenbriergames/yashima-legend-of-the-kami-masters") which ended a couple weeks ago.  It was a very interesting campaign to watch.  As is the trend with a lot of miniatures games, it had a large all-inclusive pledge level that wasn't worth the money until a lot of stretch goals were reached, as well as a base game pledge level were you could choose stretch goal addons a la cart.  The campaign was very responsive to backer feedback, changing several goals from paid addons to free for the all-inclusive pledge, as well as completely changing the high level pledge goals per backer feedback during the last few days of the campaign.  However, as people realized that the all-inclusive pledge wasn't really that great of a deal due to not reaching certain stretch goals, funding backslid and ended up not reaching the stretch goals that would have made the higher pledge worthwhile.  If you look at the Kicktraq data (http://"http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/greenbriergames/226096398/#chart-daily") the campaign actually lost money in two of the last three days, despite being almost 700% funded.  There was no typical 48 hour surge.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on November 08, 2014, 02:19:37 AM
Web of Spies has a very good looking project thumbnail.

The Black Glove was not funded. I hope they find a publisher or return in 2015.
http://i.imgur.com/tcIeg80.png (http://i.imgur.com/tcIeg80.png)

I was surprised this morning to see one of the graphs I assembled in Moon Hunters' post-mortem (http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/TanyaXShort/20141105/228102/Moon_Hunters_Kickstarter_PostMortem_Stats_Anxieties_and_Success.php).

I've been debating with myself about offering to help reboot two campaigns. I see both have buried potential, but both would be very large amounts of work to salvage because the presentations of both are very rough. I might only be able to focus on one of them.

Afterimage (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/16bitgenocide/afterimage)
Reasons why:
- Two brothers. Reminds me of my brother and myself.
- Cyberpunk (I like cyberpunk (http://i.imgur.com/JrjGeiN.jpg)) and neo-noir.
- I played a lot of The Sims Bustin Out (http://ca.ign.com/images/games/the-sims-bustin-out-gba-566910) for Game Boy Advance, so I love the animations and isometric environments.
- Strong music tracks.
- Coding ability on team is not something I'm worried about.
- I see it as a sweat fulfilment project. These types usually get done eventually, but can take longer if not enough funds are raised.
- Relatively low goal.
- Potential for very cool looking animated GIFs.
Reasons against:
- Almost a complete overhaul of the project page. It would be easier to reboot. It currently is very incomplete in its presentation.
- Better thumbnail. The current one is very bad at conveying information.
- Coherent pitch video needed.
- Images rescaled to fit the pixel width for the main body of the page.
- Built with XNA. It creates obstacles against non-PC ports that take a lot of time to work around. I am a Linux gamer.
- Premise of cracking through video gaming would need to be careful handled. The Black Glove is actually similar in gameplay in that minigames are used to progress.
- Marketing would be limited to smaller blogs until it gets enough momentum.
- I feel it is more niche with its subject matter. This could be both good and bad.
- In-game pop-ups look unfinished.
- May have to aim for a budget priced main reward tier. This will make covering funding distance harder.
- No playable demo that I know of.

The Dark Throne (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/34228654/the-dark-throne)
Reasons why:
- Camera system described in update #1 is interesting idea to me.
- Tank controls. I've been watching Let's Plays from the Best Friends Zaibatsu (http://twobestfriendsplay.wikia.com/wiki/Best_Friends_Zaibatsu) and they love games like this. I watched my brother play Dino Crisis on his PS1.
- Unity3d for easier porting.
- No QTEs or cover system.
- Good animations. I like the cape.
- Lighting and aiming systems.
- Most potential for fun gameplay.
- Lack of backers makes it easier to redesign higher priced rewards. The current run could be salvaged, but is now getting late enough that it would have to be a reboot.
Reasons against:
- The presentation leans too much towards the graphic filter. It is described as optional, but I did not see any material about what the game looks like with it turned off.
- World building project updates. Enemy variety shown so far is just skeletons. Needs more than just "The world of The Dark Throne is ravaged by the dark death and the only known cure lies deep in the dead city. Of all the champions who have made their way across the bridge, none have returned. Now it's your turn".
- Goal is equivalent of $32,000. Flow of rewards is effectively dead. Pricing feels too high to hold a lot of momentum.
- New project thumbnail.
- Marketing. There is a playable demo, but access is at the £35 tier and won't happen until the campaign ends. I would have to push for a playable demo to be released. I don't know how rough the demo is.
- The sequence for how information is presented has problems. From experience, this type of problem would take a lot of work to fix like untangling a knotted yo-yo string.
- The scope is larger. This could mean failing to deliver even if it received funding.
- I do not have a sense of what the project creator's personality is like. This is an important factor.

I may end up helping neither and focus mostly on the new campaign from the Neverending Nightmares developer and my Kickstarter guide. I still see both campaigns as good candidates to have before and after snapshots like a reality TV makeover show. Anyone want to comment about which one they think would be better to salvage?
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on November 11, 2014, 09:22:12 AM
Web of Spies (http://"https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/456676950/web-of-spies-a-secret-agent-boardgame") is about to hit the 72 hour mark.  The campaign needs to average 3 US backers per hour from now until the end.  All the high dollar pledges custom content pledges have been claimed.

One potential struggle that has impacted the game is international shipping.  As the creator is doing self shipping rather than partnering with a distribution company, not only are the games subject to international shipping fees, but also customs and VAT fees.  This has discouraged international backers due to both increased up front costs and the likely addition of additional fees later. 

Digital distribution makes international support so much easier.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on November 15, 2014, 12:41:48 AM
One potential struggle that has impacted the game is international shipping.  As the creator is doing self shipping rather than partnering with a distribution company, not only are the games subject to international shipping fees, but also customs and VAT fees.  This has discouraged international backers due to both increased up front costs and the likely addition of additional fees later. 

As a Canadian backer there have been many campaigns for physical products I would have pledged to if the international shipping had not been so discouraging. Kickstarter has recently implemented a new more flexible shipping cost feature (https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/weve-made-shipping-rewards-a-lot-more-flexible). When an international backer pledges the extra amount for shipping, it puts the project closer to its funding goal. Because that extra is going towards shipping, it doesn't contribute as much to the actual development budget as it first appears.

There is a CLANNAD Kickstarter campaign (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/clannad-official-english-release) to adapt a 2004 visual novel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clannad_(visual_novel)) into English. This campaign may be the first of more like it to come.

Vincent the Vampire (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/783935053/vincent-the-vampire-an-indie-point-and-click-adven) has a weird world of lawyers and werewolves for an officeworker protagonist to explore.

Kelvin and the Infamous Machine (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blyts/kelvin-and-the-infamous-machine) is another point and click adventure game.

Attack of the Labyrinth (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/621470124/attack-of-the-labyrinth) is a 4 player 2D top-down dungeon adventure.

Scorn Episode One (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/571331118/scorn-episode-one) has a bio-horror feel that I like. There was a memo type thing (http://scorn-game.com/index.php/2014-10-27-11-00-26/kickstarter) with transparency about where the project is. The rewards structure looks stretched too thin and only spans €15 to €200. It won't be as easily able to cover funding distances.

A lot of campaigns that launched earlier this month are stalling out right now and cancelling. This week saw a surge of campaigns with many projects feeling very rushed and as a result have poor chances of making it. Press is already hard to get even now with all the AAA releases this month. I can speculate that project creators realize Christmas is bad for crowdfunding and that they are trying to fit in 30 day long campaigns that don't end too close to Christmas. This rushing results in poor execution.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on November 18, 2014, 01:08:53 AM
It seems to me a lot of game developers based in Spain are launching this month.

Crossing Souls: An Adventure Between Life and Death (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/424511716/crossing-souls-an-adventure-between-life-and-death) is one of the stronger projects to have launched this month. Children interact with ghosts thanks to the power of a stone. The animated cutscenes fits the 1980s presentation.

To Azimuth (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1978921498/to-azimuth) is an adventure game about characters searching for abducted loved ones. I like the colour choices. The rewards only span $1 to $100 while there is a $20,000 goal.They have a prototype video linked on the project page and at the 5 minute mark is an interesting room transition where the doors and walls artisticly fall away.

The Scoundrels Guild (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adammayhem/the-scoundrels-guild-live-the-life-of-a-thief) is an OUYA game. Animations seem a bit off such as the hands, but at 2:08 there was a lobster on the table.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on November 19, 2014, 02:55:50 AM
Thimbleweed Park (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thimbleweedpark/thimbleweed-park-a-new-classic-point-and-click-adv) is from former LucasArt developers like Ron Gilbert.

Hollow Knight (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/11662585/hollow-knight) has some great atmosphere. The 2D animations are strong.

Formicarium (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1732304023/formicarium-a-strategy-simulation-sandbox-game) is another insect focussed game. This time it is about managing an ant colony.

Buck & Miles (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/taqutor/buck-and-miles-a-cross-platform-2d-platformer) is a SNES platformer homage.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on November 20, 2014, 03:56:26 PM
Hollow Knight's art style is looking really nice, love the insect theme and the gameplay and visuals remind me a little of Ghost Song's presentation. Might have to follow that one if it gets close to hitting its goal!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on December 03, 2014, 01:38:51 AM
There are not really any campaigns other than Kriophobia (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/firasoft/kriophobia-bringing-back-survival-horror) (A survival horror game with a demo) launching so far this month that are worth noting. Kickstarter slows down in December.

November was actually seeing some traffic numbers as good as September (Not as good as October) partially thanks to traffic generated by Thimbleweed Park. Many campaigns cancelled during the previous week. There are more "Kickstarter is dead" posts because projects like Air Brawl (http://i.imgur.com/6SAeARE.png) didn't make it. There were too many European developers cramming into the platform at a bad time of year like what happened with the Kickstarter UK launch back in 2012.

What is worth noting is Kickstarter made a very significant layout redesign. I miss some of the features I was used to like displaying the start and end dates below the rewards sidebar, pages for comments or easy access to the Twitter button.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: crinaya on December 06, 2014, 04:21:27 PM
Not a fan of the new kickstarter interface changes.

Currently taking a break from kickstarter, waiting for a few projects to actually send out rewards and for my gaming budget to build back up again.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on December 16, 2014, 02:04:22 AM
The December slowdown is here. I've been catching up on a lot of backlog. My new Kickstarter guide is now over 81,000 words and growing. I've now started to shift more attention to the sections about interpreting graphs. The new changes to Kickstarter itself meant a lot of editing had to be done to update and reorganize parts.
http://i.imgur.com/GajReCJ.png (http://i.imgur.com/GajReCJ.png)

Aviary Attorney (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1873107026/aviary-attorney) is a lawyer sim where all the characters are birds drawn in an art style inspired by J. J. Grandville.

Daydreamer (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1219798749/daydreamer-0) has a very eye catching creepy project thumbnail and some good monster designs, but the platforming looks like it needs more polishing.

Absent II (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fentonfilmgames/absent-ii) is a sequel to a free point and click game on Desura. I liked the pitch. With such a low goal is should be able to survive running in December.

Steam Battle (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1605035312/steam-battle) is an multiplayer vehicular combat game. It feels too ambitious to run this time of year. I do like how much gameplay footage they showed.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Theseekr12 on January 17, 2015, 08:35:50 PM
Some new porject I think are interesting:

-Moonman is a procedurally-generated adventure game. Explore a strange and vibrant world, harvest resources from the environment, craft and trade items, and have odd encounters. Each new game generates a unique world to explore.
25 day to go, $9,754 of $35,000.

Link here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eigenbom/moonman (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eigenbom/moonman)

-Shadowrun: Hong Kong, what can I say? It's a new Shadowrun, he reached its goal in less than 2 hours.
30 days to go, $523,397 of $100,000.

Link here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/shadowrun-hong-kong (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/shadowrun-hong-kong)

-Drift Stage is a modern take on the classic arcade racer. Paying homage to the eras that birthed the genre, Drift Stage features a unique art style, blending pixel art and 3D models to create a colorful and vibrant world to race in.  Focusing on easy to pick up gameplay with enough depth to keep dedicated race fans satisfied, Drift Stage hopes to bring back the blend of pure fun and challenge that was a staple of arcade classics.
It has a pretty cool demo. 21 days to go, $41,843 of $30,000.

Link here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1910344764/drift-stage (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1910344764/drift-stage)

-Into the Starts A single player open-world journey through a distant solar system. Scavenge resources, manage your ship and lead your crew in combat.
17 days to go, $87,919 of $85,000.

Link here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fugitivegames/into-the-stars (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fugitivegames/into-the-stars)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on January 21, 2015, 01:47:48 AM
Looks like Kickstarter is finally getting back to being as busy as it was before the December slowdown.

I really like the atmosphere created by Moonman. It helps set it apart from other Terraria-like games.

Children of Morta (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deadmage/children-of-morta) has an action RPG with some great art assets.

STRAFE (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/strafegame/strafe) is a FPS that has a very entertaining 90s commercial skit.

Steel Assault (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/43113410/steel-assault) uses an art style inspired by some of the last and most technically advanced games for the NES such as Shatterhand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shatterhand).
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on February 05, 2015, 02:13:49 AM
Into The Stars was able to achieve 131% funded (http://i.imgur.com/wBTJIQp.png).

STRAFE added a $15 tier because of many complaints that introducing the game at the $25 tier was too much. The result was some cannibalization from the $15 tier taking backers from the $25 tier.

Orion Trail (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/schellgames/orion-trail) has the premise of Oregan Trail in a spaceship.

Judo (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/laboratory/judo) is retro looking martial arts game.

Neptune, Have Mercy (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2124803562/neptune-have-mercy-a-sci-fi-submarine-roguelike-ga) has a submersible fighting aquatic monsters.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on February 11, 2015, 01:38:53 AM
The Miskatonic (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rapscalliongames/the-miskatonic) is a sidescrolling "horror" comedy.

Seaworthy (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mildlycompetent/seaworthy) is a FTL inspired game with sea pirates instead of space pirates.

WarRab: Veteran (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1400632887/warrab-veteran-fantasy-steampunk-rpg) is an odd game with a rabbit and war.

Strength Of The SWORD ULTIMATE (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1145990096/strength-of-the-sword-ultimate) is a rare example of using infographs as the main body of a project page.

Underworld Ascendant (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/othersidegames/underworld-ascendant) is from a game development team that worked on Thief and Ultima.

For other Kickstarter-related news there are problems with Godus (http://kotaku.com/peter-molyneuxs-godus-is-having-serious-problems-1685009738)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Vasae on February 11, 2015, 03:41:12 AM
For other Kickstarter-related news there are problems with Godus ([url]http://kotaku.com/peter-molyneuxs-godus-is-having-serious-problems-1685009738[/url])


You don't say? WarRab also has a rather low asking ceiling, can't say the art draws me in though.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on February 11, 2015, 04:37:19 AM
Strength Of The SWORD ULTIMATE looks too good for only 14k. I'll keep a close eye on it because the trailer makes it look like a pretty decent game. Actually, remindinds me of 3d zelda combat, which is a good thing.

At this point I'd really be interested in a "how are some kickstarters doing" part for once. So many games have news spread across multiple sites or have it for bacekrs only. Hard to keep track of what's going on. Not to mention that some kickstarters really tend to slip under the radar.

For other Kickstarter-related news there are problems with Godus ([url]http://kotaku.com/peter-molyneuxs-godus-is-having-serious-problems-1685009738[/url])


It's the eventual end of what was the downwinding career of The Deciever Peter Molyneux. At this point, if he personally had spit into each backer's face it would have been less offensive than what he did with Godus.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on February 22, 2015, 01:16:27 AM
Spooky Poo's HAPPY HELL (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/590439323/spooky-poos-happy-hell) art style stands out.

Tahira: Echoes of the Astral Empire (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/whalehammergames/tahira-echoes-of-the-astral-empire-turn-based-tact) feels to me like a mix of The Banner Saga with a premise like a 1980s sci-fi movie on VHS.

Infernax (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/berzerkstudio/infernax-an-8bit-flavored-horror-arpg) is another hype 90s pitch like STRAFE had, but a bit watered down.

Unraveled (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/696564/unraveled-a-nostalgic-80s-adventure-rpg-and-platfo) is an RPG with some better than expected presentation. It has ship-breaking (A booming industry in India) as part of its setting.

It was revealed that Godus was using the Marmalade SDK to build the game. Why is this bad? They promised Linux support, which is effectively thrown out the window by using this SDK. Either they did not care about actually supporting Linux, were overly optimistic that a solution could be found later or some very poor project management happened. This is also strange because 22cans revealed it did have experience working with Unity3D which is a very portable engine.

I did not realize how playable Strength of The Sword ULTIMATE was when I saw it launch. Sometimes what looks like gameplay is an in-engine mockup. Let's Players have been playing a build available through PSN that is much more complete than I expected. That low goal should be good enough for creating a singleplayer campaign that just needs more art assets to populate it. It looks a bit low for multiplayer PVP to have a comfortable budget.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Doomspeaker on February 22, 2015, 05:40:03 AM
Infernax ([url]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/berzerkstudio/infernax-an-8bit-flavored-horror-arpg[/url]) is another hype 90s pitch like STRAFE had, but a bit watered down.


Made me laught. While the gory thing certainly isn't up everybody's taste, the game is headed for a good start. It's kinda cool seeing Berzerk Studios try to jump onto making "real" games, because they already delivered solid games in the past.
Maybe what's even more interesting is the structure of the campaign itself. The game is already done and doesn't need a funding to be completed anymore, basically being a more elaborate pre-order system with a 50% price cut.  You think getting a guaranteed game, unlike other kickstarters, will have a big impact on backer influence?


I did not realize how playable Strength of The Sword ULTIMATE was when I saw it launch. Sometimes what looks like gameplay is an in-engine mockup. Let's Players have been playing a build available through PSN that is much more complete than I expected. That low goal should be good enough for creating a singleplayer campaign that just needs more art assets to populate it. It looks a bit low for multiplayer PVP to have a comfortable budget.


Did the KS page ever mention the playable version? I can't remember seeing it on there. Anyway that's certainly good news.

Godus


What ... this is ... I don't even ... *sigh*
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on February 25, 2015, 04:39:04 AM
Pebble Time (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-time-awesome-smartwatch-no-compromises) broke a funding rate record by achieving $1,000,000 within 49 minutes (https://www.yahoo.com/tech/pebble-time-raises-1-million-in-49-minutes-111979398809.html).

Don't Be Patchman (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/naturally/dont-be-patchman) is another bizarre game.

World of Callisto (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lyorah/world-of-callisto-adventure-construction-techpunk) is another weird project. Turn down your speakers because the audio is a bit too loud when a ship's alarm starts blazing.

Albert & Otto (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2099175988/albert-and-otto) is another Limbo-like game, but dominated by whiteness instead of black darkness.

It is starting to get a little dry for good video game project launches. GDC is approaching on March 2nd, so many developers should be hesitating to launch around that week.



Here is a little adventure to an insight about better understanding Kickstarter campaigns that I've gained while making my Imgur graphs (http://lobstersundew.imgur.com/).

First, look at the "Backers by tier over time" graph for a popular campaign like That Dragon Cancer. The Law of Large Numbers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers) is important here because by having larger samples from a population, a more accurate representation of the large population should start to emerge. Popular campaigns are easier to illustrate what I'm going to talk about because they have more backers.
http://i.imgur.com/i9GIJdo.png (http://i.imgur.com/i9GIJdo.png)
The most populated rewards tiers have what can be described as an S-shape. This shape results from booming at the start with big y-axis gains in new backers, a slower period for gains in the middle (The infamous Kickstarter trough) and another increase in new backers near the end of the campaign.

Next, look at the "Percentage of the total number of backers by reward tier over time" graph for That Dragon Cancer and notice how the tiers plateau in that graph. The $15 tier hugs the 60% line throughout the entire campaign. Isn't that interesting? Notice the other tiers also staying about the same percentages. Is this exposing probabilities for how reward tiers are getting picked? It looks like it.

This stabilizing in the percentage of backers at the main reward tiers is happening to other popular campaigns, not just That Dragon Cancer. Below are links to more examples.
http://i.imgur.com/WCS6eMF.png (http://i.imgur.com/WCS6eMF.png)   http://i.imgur.com/1uZpGBd.png (http://i.imgur.com/1uZpGBd.png)
http://i.imgur.com/jZX9egk.png (http://i.imgur.com/jZX9egk.png)      http://i.imgur.com/Sb2hPZT.png (http://i.imgur.com/Sb2hPZT.png)
http://i.imgur.com/P7jv3ds.png (http://i.imgur.com/P7jv3ds.png)      http://i.imgur.com/KsuuLa3.png (http://i.imgur.com/KsuuLa3.png)
http://i.imgur.com/ub1Perg.png (http://i.imgur.com/ub1Perg.png)

Now start thinking about a pair of imaginary dice that when rolled will decide which reward tier will be picked when a new backers arrives. What that "Percentage of the total number of backers by reward tier over time" graph provide is an idea for how the probabilities for those imaginary dice are weighted. Some dice outcomes have greater probabilities, which is why tabletop game designers have to create rules to deal with the number 7 having the greatest chance to be rolled (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/math/dice.html) with two traditional fair dice. The probability of a $10,000 backer can be thought of as so low that a $10,000 pledge didn't happen within the duration of many campaigns. That probability may be too small to even be visible on the graph.

After realizing that because the weightings of the imaginary dice are not shifting much over time, there needs to be an explanation for what is creating the S-shape for in the "Backers by tier over time" graph. A possible explanation I found is that when a project gains momentum and more people are finding it, more imaginary throws of the same pair of dice are happening. When the momentum drops and is experiencing less eyes on it, less throws are happening. Each backer is making his or her own decision about what tier he or she will select. I could rephrase this as more rolls are happening in the time at the start and end of the campaign, while rolls are happening less frequently in the middle.

The big insight in this post is actually that I feel more can be learned about campaigns by watching when those probabilities aren't stabilizing. Something is causing the behaviour of backers to change. Discovering the source of the change means it could be mitigated or intentionally utilized on future campaigns.

What do many backers shift towards when they are trying to upgrade their pledges to help during the last few days?
http://i.imgur.com/KM2R9NA.png (http://i.imgur.com/KM2R9NA.png)  http://i.imgur.com/EIMpVX8.png (http://i.imgur.com/EIMpVX8.png)
What happens when an early-bird reward gets filled?
http://i.imgur.com/F3DLLpG.png (http://i.imgur.com/F3DLLpG.png)  http://i.imgur.com/KyPWv3g.png (http://i.imgur.com/KyPWv3g.png)
http://i.imgur.com/wBTJIQp.png (http://i.imgur.com/wBTJIQp.png)
What can happen when new rewards tiers are added during the campaign?
http://i.imgur.com/AamRipQ.png (http://i.imgur.com/AamRipQ.png)  http://i.imgur.com/E051E4O.png (http://i.imgur.com/E051E4O.png)

So far I've observed that graphs about the percentage of backers at reward tiers can stabilize if there are no early-bird tiers at all, if the backers don't need to upgrade their pledges to save the campaign (Because it can be already over its minimum goal or trending strongly to it) and if no new reward tier is added during the campaign that may start taking backers away from an existing tier. Hardcore fans and family backing in the first few days can be said to be rolling a different higher weighted dice.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on March 05, 2015, 01:40:19 AM
Good Sir Lobster, and really any of you guys! I have a request on behalf of an acquaintance of mine for some  guidance, if you might accept it.

There's a Kickstarter project closing in on its final week for a game called
Sneaky Ninja (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/starfallstudios/sneaky-ninja), it's being developed by a team including a friend of a friend of mine who is the lead designer/coder. The game is sort of a mix of Mark of the Ninja's 2D stealth-based gameplay with a more lighthearted aesthetic along the lines of Mario or Rayman, less throat slicing, more comedic slapstick and such. It has a lot of systems fleshed out including a really nice-looking level editor, and they're still hard at work ironing out the bugs and kinks. It's a promising project and though there's only a week left and more than half of their goal yet to be reached, I'd like to give them any little bit of support that I can, whether or not the Kickstarter succeeds.

I followed up with the lead dev after he initially showed off the game to the game development club at my college. He said he would great if you could offer any advice on changes or improvements for the campaign even with just a week left. If you could do a look-over of his project page, maybe make some critiques, refer him to some of your own writings on good practices for running a successful Kickstarter, I'm sure he'd appreciate it. Whatever comes to mind, be it timing when to put up a campaign, more effective use of pledging tiers, stretch goals, presentation, getting the word out, etc. would be awesome!
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on March 11, 2015, 02:41:27 AM
The last e-mail notification I received from Pixelscopic was February 22nd. I see the subforums here have all been rearranged. It even took a bit to find where this thread was again. I've re-checkmarked this thread to recieve notifications again.

The thumbnail and title for Sneak Ninja looked like it is one of the mobile games that hardcore PC gamers have a stigma against. Knocking guards into water, pulling them into bushes and the time freeze to throw weapons look like polished gameplay. I barely played the pitch video when it launched and from the brief footage it looks like another very casual game. I know see there is much more depth. The art style really makes it look like the generic mobile games that come to Kickstarter. It looks like it will make it on its last day.

Way back in 2012 I was the first backer on Conquest 2 Vyrium Uprising (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1869102574/conquest-2-vyrium-uprising-rts-fans-unite/comments?cursor=756362#comment-756361). The project creator is back on Kickstarter with Descent: Underground (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1215021703/descent-underground). That was a very tiring project preview to critique over the last few weeks.

Halcyon 6: Starbase Commander (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kenseto/halcyon-6-starbase-commander) is another Square Enix Collective project.

Toejam and Earl: Back in the Groove (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1578116861/toejam-and-earl-back-in-the-groove) was the first time I saw an animated project thumbnail implemented on Kickstarter. They probably uploaded an animated GIF as a JPEG. IndieGoGo allowed animated GIFs. The project categories then became walls of GIFs.

Slain! (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1348640000/slain) is a gory 2D hack and slash.

Kickstarter changed some of the page formatting again. There is a second total amount pledge counter now for some reason. They may be switching to even more tabs-based approach in the future.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Ryan Baker on March 11, 2015, 03:42:46 PM
I see the subforums here have all been rearranged. It even took a bit to find where this thread was again. I've re-checkmarked this thread to recieve notifications again.


Sorry for the inconvenience! I should have known some of you would have specific pages bookmarked :( but I hoped the redirection notices would help. I reorganized the forums to help new users find things more easily, to deprecate some unnecessary boards with very few posts, and to promote some sections with more or more frequent posts by bringing them to the forefront. So hopefully in the future this thread will be even more prominent since it's in the dedicated "game news" (Games on Draught) section :)
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on May 01, 2015, 06:05:46 PM
A spiritual successor for Banjo-Kazooie surpassed its £175,000 goal within 40 minutes after launching (http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/05/01/yooka-laylee-kickstarter-funded-in-40-minutes). Yooka-Laylee (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/playtonic/yooka-laylee-a-3d-platformer-rare-vival) (A pun of ukulele (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukulele)) raised over £680,000 and the first day isn't even over yet.

Space Dust Racers (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spaceduststudios/space-dust-racers) is a 3D kart racing party game.

Elsinore (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/235466673/elsinore-a-time-looping-adventure-game) has a Groundhog Day time-loop scenario combined with the setting of Hamlet.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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XO (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jumpdrive/xo-a-retro-sci-fi-strategy-game-for-pc-mac-linux) is game with RTS elements and a bit of FTL: Faster Than Light encounters mixed in. Instead of base building and defeating an opponent, it is defending a fleet's exodus through space while chased by an overpowering enemy. The Twitter account for Hive Jump follows them.

Keiji Inafune returned to Kickstarter again to make a spiritual successor to Megaman Legends. RED ASH (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mightyno9/red-ash-the-indelible-legend) has 6 days to raise an additional $325,000. A RED ASH animation project (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mightyno9/red-ash-magicicada-by-studio4c) has 6 days to do about $50,000. To run this project while Mighty No.9's release was pushed back was a turn-off for many backers of that previous project. It will be a close finish if either or both campaigns suceed.

Tsioque (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ohnoo/tsioque-an-animated-2d-adventure-game) is a hand-animated adventure game with a playable demo. It is from the developers of Tormentum (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/03/04/tormentum-dark-sorrow-review/).

Devastated Dreams (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/infinitap/devastated-dreams) is the second project from the developer of Neverending Nightmares. It is a horror game set in the Philipines with a pregnant protagonist.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Divinity: Original Sin 2 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/larianstudios/divinity-original-sin-2) is the current big video game project on Kickstarter. It is outperforming the first game's campaign.

Everspace (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rockfishgames/everspace) is a visually impressive 3D space shooter showing off what the engine can do.

A bunch of famous game developers launched the crowdfunding platform Fig.co (https://www.fig.co/campaigns/outer-wilds) that seems to focus on one game at a time and has equity options in addition to pre-orders. I've noticed they bought a bunch of paid advertising. The pitch video for Outer Wilds is actually very poorly executed for meeting the objectives of a pitch video. I am surprised how bad both versions of the pitch were.

A campaign launced (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/saberridergame/saber-rider-and-the-star-sheriffs-the-video-game) to make a game for the 1987 cartoon Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber_Rider_and_the_Star_Sheriffs).

RED ASH ended up being a PR disaster (http://kotaku.com/the-red-ash-kickstarter-is-a-disaster-1721094852). On July 30th large numbers of backers began to pull their pledges when they learned about a publisher deal with FUZE.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: LobsterSundew on September 09, 2015, 02:50:35 AM
The Dwarves (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kingartgames/the-dwarves-a-new-storydriven-fantasy-rpg) has a physics-based combat system intended so players can fight crowds of opponents.

Battle Chasers: Nightwar (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1548028600/battle-chasers-nightwar) is a JRPG game with some impressive visuals.

De Mambo (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thedangerouskitchen/de-mambo) is a single-button game with a weird pitch.

tiny and Tall (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pins/tiny-and-tall-gleipnir) is another hand-drawn art-style adventure game.
Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: Quady14 on June 22, 2016, 11:27:56 AM
Got a sad message over email today from The Hero Trap, which Lobster featured on here some time ago:

"Some contributors to our Kickstarter campaign for The Hero Trap have expressed disappointment that we have not delivered the game. I share your disappointment, and want to give you some information about our work status on the project.

When we ran the Kickstarter campaign, we made a strategic decision to create a lower goal amount than we needed to complete the project, in the hopes that we would exceed the goal amount but still receive the money generated by the campaign should it fall short of our expectations. When we did not raise the amount anticipated, we hoped that we would be able to make up the difference by securing the balance of the amount needed through a publisher. That didn’t happen, leading to more budgetary shortfalls. Simultaneously, we lost our anchor client in the more lucrative work for hire part of our business.

With a smaller team, we continued to work on The Hero Trap consistently. We realized there were some flaws in the gameplay and attempted to correct course, which led to us to changing much of the hook that attracted many players in the first place. Nonetheless, we felt with this new version of the game we would be able to find a publisher. Unfortunately, this was not to be. At this point, I’ve personally spent over eighty thousand dollars and I can’t afford to keep pumping money into it. In addition to the financial strain, it’s taken a personal toll. At this time, I’m regretfully cancelling the project.

I will make every effort to refund the money of those who feel they have been “cheated” as a few contributors described. While it was obviously not our intention to cheat any contributors, I take responsibility for making some mistakes in the fundraising phase. Please send me your paypal account via private message by July 10. I will return your money shortly after that.

For those of you who remain, we will be posting the current Mac and Windows versions of the game after the refunds. Additionally, each donor will receive a copy of my next game, whatever that may be.

I’m truly sorry if you are disappointed, but financing games is a complicated business and not every project makes it to completion. Thank you for supporting us, and for supporting small projects like ours in the future. Nik"

:( I only backed a dollar but it's disheartening to see something with potential go down like that. I can't imagine that heavy of a financial burden either. Their initial pitch video really made it look like it might've held its own, the first boss especially was really a spectacle in terms of design and animation. At the least the guy is doing his best to do the right thing by the backers.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: EdwinAmite on March 04, 2017, 12:03:14 AM
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
Post by: EdwinAmite on March 04, 2017, 12:32:01 AM
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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Title: Re: Delving into Kickstarter. Discussing active crowdfunding campaigns.
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